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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Boco] #6843691
04/15/20 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Its called stimulism now not socialism-makes it more acceptable.

Socialism is okay when its "your guy" pushing it.

Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6843769
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Cows and Government

Socialism

You have two cows. The government takes one and give one to your neighbor.

Communism

You have two cows. The government takes them both and promises you milk but you starve.

Fascism

You have two cows. The government takes them and sells you the milk.

Bureaucracy

You have two cows. The government takes them both, shoots one, milks the other, pays you for the milk, and then pours it down the drain.

Capitalism

You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

Bain Capitalism

You have two cows. You sell one, force the other to produce the milk of four cows and then act surprised when it drops dead.

Redistributionism

You have two cows. The government taxes you to the point that you must sell them both in order to support someone else who already got a free cow from the government.

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A CHRISTIAN:

You have two cows. You keep one and give one to your neighbor.

A SOCIALIST:

You have two cows. The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.

A REPUBLICAN:

You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. So what?

A DEMOCRAT:

You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You feel guilty for being successful. You vote people into office who tax your cows, forcing you to sell one to raise money to pay the tax. The people you voted for then take the tax money and buy a cow and give it to your neighbor. You feel righteous.

A FASCIST:

You have two cows. The government seizes both and sells you the milk. You join the underground and start a campaign of sabotage.

A CAPITALIST:

You have two cows. You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.

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A FRENCH CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You go on strike because you want three cows.

A JAPANESE CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk.

A GERMAN CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You re-engineer them so they live for 100 years, eat once a month, and milk themselves.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION:

You have two cows but you don’t know where they are. You break for lunch.

A RUSSIAN CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You count them and learn you have five cows. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. You count them again and learn you have 12 cows. You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka.

A SWISS CORPORATION:

You have 5000 cows, none of which belongs to you. You charge for storing them for others.

A TALIBAN CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You turn them loose in the Afghan “countryside” and they both die. You blame the godless American infidels and the Jews.

AN INDIAN CORPORATION:

You have two cows. You worship them.





�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.�
― Robert A. Heinlein
Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6843802
04/15/20 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Diggerman

Can you name one other country or govt that is better for it citizens than ours, If you can you should make it known to about a million wanna be immigrants. Also to all those people fleeing this country you should tell them where to go.


Point taken, and I agree. We really do have it great here. I have everything I need and then some. But that don't mean all new ideas are automatically evil, or should be lumped with the worst manifestation of it's principles.

Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6843807
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What is the new ideas?

Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6843808
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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: bblwi] #6843811
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Originally Posted by bblwi
I planted, weeded, harvested and managed a 3/4 acre veggie garden at our neighboring small village United Ministries Center for 3 years. The first two years I had some volunteer help and had a broad spectrum of garden veggies which was a lot of work. The idea was we hoped to get enough donations from those visiting the resale store to at least buy the seed. That never happened. We hauled over 6,000 lbs. of fresh veggies through the store and could not get $200 in donations. The last year or 3rd year I planted the whole thing to sweet corn as that was lower cost and much less work. I can remember people with 40K SUVs sitting in the parking lot waiting for the corn to be brought in and take a couple dozen and drive off. They could not even help pick the stuff. I had some very low income families help in the garden but not any with nice vehicles.
I plant enough stuff in two gardens yet to give away some food items but that is my choice. We thought that this ministries garden would at least cover the seed and gas cost to work and rotor till the garden but it could not.
This is in a very rural area and not influenced by large metro centers.

Bryce

Sounds familiar. I was a member of a Lions Club for 20 yrs. All volunteer organizations end up the same.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6843820
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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6843839
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I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6843851
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All men are created equally. What they do with their time on earth is not all equal and should be compensated as seen fit by those who are providing the compensation.

Re: Socialism ??? [Re: TrapperDR] #6843855
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Originally Posted by TrapperDR
All men are created equally.


All men are not created equal and therein lies the problem. Equality under the law and being created equal are not the same. Natural talents, intelligence, physical abilities are not equal and will always cause the creation of a hierarchy among humans.

Re: Socialism ??? [Re: SNIPERB🦝] #6843897
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
What is the new ideas?

He's looking them up right now in his Alinsky handbook.

Re: Socialism ??? [Re: TrapperDR] #6843913
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Originally Posted by TrapperDR
All men are created equally. What they do with their time on earth is not all equal and should be compensated as seen fit by those who are providing the compensation.



AMEN !!!


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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6843922
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I can see where socialism might appeal to those who have limited ambitions and limited means.

Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6843927
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by TrapperDR
All men are created equally.


All men are not created equal and therein lies the problem. Equality under the law and being created equal are not the same. Natural talents, intelligence, physical abilities are not equal and will always cause the creation of a hierarchy among humans.

I do believe that is Survival of the Fittest!


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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Scout1] #6843948
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Originally Posted by Scout1
I do believe that is Survival of the Fittest!


Is man the only animal on the planet that thinks he's immune from fighting for survival?

Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Posco] #6843967
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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by Scout1
I do believe that is Survival of the Fittest!


Is man the only animal on the planet that thinks he's immune from fighting for survival?


Yes

Laws were originally created by the strong to protect that strength but over time those laws have been compromised by those weaker then them in a effort to shackle the strongest from being able to employ that strength for their own benefit wither that strength is physical, mental or of other kinds and it is only going to become worse

That’s not to say that all laws are bad just that laws trying to make everyone fit into some kind of mediocre mold is

The best and brightest should rise to the top as an example of what we should strive for even if we never reach it





�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.�
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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6843984
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Lol. No no no no. Laws have their roots in the Bible. The Bible being a pretty good handbook for Humanity. To Live like human beings and not animals. .


"Nothing I like to do pays well." True Grit

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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: bblwi] #6844049
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Originally Posted by bblwi
I planted, weeded, harvested and managed a 3/4 acre veggie garden at our neighboring small village United Ministries Center for 3 years. The first two years I had some volunteer help and had a broad spectrum of garden veggies which was a lot of work. The idea was we hoped to get enough donations from those visiting the resale store to at least buy the seed. That never happened. We hauled over 6,000 lbs. of fresh veggies through the store and could not get $200 in donations. The last year or 3rd year I planted the whole thing to sweet corn as that was lower cost and much less work. I can remember people with 40K SUVs sitting in the parking lot waiting for the corn to be brought in and take a couple dozen and drive off. They could not even help pick the stuff. I had some very low income families help in the garden but not any with nice vehicles.
I plant enough stuff in two gardens yet to give away some food items but that is my choice. We thought that this ministries garden would at least cover the seed and gas cost to work and rotor till the garden but it could not.
This is in a very rural area and not influenced by large metro centers.

Bryce

Wow,,sounds like a bunch of selfish folks.Too bad


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Re: Socialism ??? [Re: SNIPERB🦝] #6844050
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Originally Posted by Poorcoon
Everybody's Talkin like it's something that could happen. It's here!. It's now!. The United States is a socialist country right now. And they did it without a fight. They slowly took over the farmers. Slowly getting them dependent on one government program after another. Many other entities and now the Coronavirus finished us off. And there's no going back and there's nothing you're going to do about it either.


We have a lot of welfare programs, doesn't make us socialist. Sweden is the same way and keep yelling at Bernie to stop calling them socialist. Once we start nationalizing businesses, then we're socialist.


I guess you are too young to remember when airport security was provided by private businesses. Then their businesses got nationalized and now they aren't. America has a mixed economy that has many sectors that are controlled or operated by the State. It will continue to slowly become more and more socialist because most of you people want it.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Socialism ??? [Re: Finster] #6844055
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Not all airports have TSA. Some do their own security. Unfortunately there's too many gutless wonders that let the TSA takeover.

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