Hope you are not a hypocrite and drive a car. How many times have you lobbied your gov reps to ban cars being driven?! Nobody driving COULD be done but people want to live in a free country so there are risks that have to be taken!!

My question as well. It's a virus, it isn't going away. When they shut done schools for "two weeks" I knew that was a lie. It might "flatten the curve" naturally during the summer months but exactly how long are we expected to remain in this socialist state?

its snowin so hard right now i can't see my 50 yd target.gonna nap-wake me if anything happens tay.

LOL

I seen the temps were in the teens up there this morning.

Good post Leftlane.

Leftlane you’re invited to the party when the government says we can come out of hiding too. Steven would be but he scares me.

Trump can't and didn't shut us down. The states governors did.

My opinion is.....there's enough people use to gov't protecting them and bought into it enough they're scared, they are willing to over-look the un-constitutionality of the "rules" being forced on the rest.

And gov't is taking notes!

Please tell me why we didn't shut down when we had h1n1 and sars? Anyone? By the way, Sars is a corona family virus too....and don't say it's because at that time they weren't trying to throw the president out if office at that time. That makes to much sense.

Media.

I have two cousins that are doctors in Oklahoma city. They haven't acted like I should be in fear of my life.

Only if he promises to wear his skirt.

This entire thing has been blown way out of proportion and everyone is obeying because big government says so. Just like good little sheep. I'm not happy people are dying from this but I see no reason to ruin the country over it. 62,000 people died last year from heroine OD's, 30,000 from car accidents, over 60,000 from the seasonal flu. I could go on and on. The government put a big scare into everyone and it worked like a champ. Just goes to prove that people can't think for themselves and need direction. Common sense, heightened awareness and some real information from a reliable news source would have nipped this in the bud. Sadly, none of these things exist in this country today. People are mindless drones and because of that, we are in the position that we are in. When this is all over, it will come out that it's been a big farce and everyone overreacted. Mark my words here and now. I say this as I am quarantining myself in my trailer for a week. Not because the government tells me to but for my wife's peace of mind. The media and the government put a big scare into her and I just came back from working a nuke out in Illinois. I told her I would do this just in case which made her feel better. Yes, they had the virus at that plant and no, I didn't get it. In fact, I believe a bunch of us got it back in February at another plant before anyone knew it was in the country. but that's a different story.

People are really showing their true colours on this thread.
Why would I ever want to associate with people who dont give a dam about anyone but themselves-and indicate that they dont care if old vulnerable people die a horrible death drowning in their own fluids because they are "old" and are gonna die anyway.
What a f--- up selfish generation-they dont give a dam about the elders in society and are so stupidly arrogant know-it-alls that they dismiss the rules passed to protect the vulnerable in society put out by the most knowlegeable health care professionals.

In reading these threads, what is the common thread is FEAR. People who work in healing the sick are rightly upset when they see people not taking this seriously, and it places the health restorers in jeopardy with their families.
The other focus is the economy, in people fearing they are losing their investments and want the country moving, as they conclude this will protect them.

This virus is a biological weapon, and in that it is different strains of viruses which has been proven, so there are different symptoms for people from deadly to slight.

What the President and the Governors are engaged in, is not fighting this virus, as it can not be fought. The measures which are being taken are to slow the virus, so the people who are worst hit have a chance of not suffocating in their own fluids, and can be placed on a ventilator. Most will have a form of this virus in time. America is trying to manage a pandemic, which was released in China, covered up, and then spread deliberately to America and other nations by the Chinese PLA as the evidence revealed. America is trying to not become Italy, Iran or China.
I doubt most reading this have tracked the genetics of these virus strains. Most people in New York and the surrounding areas are Italian and Chinese, due to the strains. People are not being told this.

There is going to be plenty of opportunity for those who are whistling in the graveyard in saying this virus is nothing like the flu in dangers in there will be waves of this virus hitting America through the summer. We are about to have the Snowbird and Easter wave hit in a few weeks, and there is a really bad Mexican wave which is out there. Check the communist Chinese pork plant of Smithfield in Sioux Falls. The strain there is lethal to Mexicans as Mexicans were brought in and spread it. 1 Mexican at Smithfield infected 80 workers by Good Friday. By the following Monday there were almost 1000 infected, and the numbers are growing rapidly. Smithfield has shut down plants in Missouri and Wisconsin as they had infected Mexicans too.
So this is understood, Mexicans do not fear as Americans fear. They take no steps to prevent spread and then they flee to other sanctuary areas to spread the virus.

The L strain which is the one which puts people on ventilators and kills them was a first wave. The S strain and I know those who have had it, found it terrifying, as this was not the flu, but as the person from Illinois said of their sister in law, she is still recovering after a month.

Fear is what is driving Americans apart. We all fear losing something. Some are phobic about being told to stay home. Some are fearful their portfolios are going to collapse. Others are fearful of losing their jobs. Some are fearful Corona will have them lose their lives or those they love. If we could all agree we are afraid, and it is ok to be afraid, then maybe we could stop sniping at each other, as every person has points which are valid to them.
I prefer to think of this as we are in a human deer season with this virus. Deer are not stupid in staying alive in sheltering in place, making certain they only come out when it is safe, and focusing on the things which will keep them alive, until the season is over. We are all deer now, but we are a diverse group on Tman and every person here has a great deal which adds to this site. We are all strong willed, stubborn and do not give up. That is why we are who we are as a group. This started with a medical worker being upset in people endangering him. None of us would want that. What is not spoken of here, is almost every case of people being sick, is from someone who was selfish in they did not have to follow the rules. Other people can wash their hands. Other people can stay home. Other people can hold their end up. That kind of "liberal excuse" has been embedded since the 1960's, and people got away with it, until a pandemic brought conservative reality to life, in you can;'t get away with things.

Personally, I handle my fear in being a Christian. I do not tempt God in gathering in worship groups, but I do like King David, put things into God's hands and trust that God knows best, and if I die, I have a Heaven where there will be endless vistas of all the wildlife and wilderness I love here. I can not take a portfolio with me, I trust God that if I lost everything that He will bring something better. I could die of a heart attack or a lightning strike like anyone here today. None of us knows how long we have. In God, I respect what Coronavirus can do, but I work to not be fearful of it, as people in my community are dying of normal things as before. That does not make Coronavirus any less deadly or harmful, no more than being shot in the war by a 7.62 AK or a IED. I am just going to pay attention so that when this is over, and by God's Grace I survive, I am not the person who gave the virus to a health worker who died, or gave it to a kid whose lungs are damaged for life.

Being upset is fine. Being afraid if fine. We just need to work on not tearing into each other, as the Chinese relish Americans ripping themselves apart and not focusing on the problem which started there.

God bless.

Odd, I didn't see one person post that? Maybe your reading into things and can't see both sides of an issue?