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Justification For Gun Control? #6844205
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We are told not to judge All Muslims on the action of a few lunatics.

But, we are encouraged to judge All gun owners on the actions of a few lunatics.

Funny how that works.


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Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Trapper7] #6844208
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How true! Well put.


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Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Trapper7] #6844228
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Good point

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Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Trapper7] #6844229
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They used "public health" to shut down our right to assemble and right to religious practice. Wait til they shut down the 2nd for "public health."

Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Trapper7] #6844300
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
We are told not to judge All Muslims on the action of a few lunatics.

But, we are encouraged to judge All gun owners on the actions of a few lunatics.

Funny how that works.


It goes both ways. There are plenty of people who don't want to be judged by the actions of one crazy guy with a gun, and yet are willing to judge all muslims by the acts of a few crazy muslims. It's wrong in both cases.

Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Trapper7] #6844306
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I read we had record background checks last month and one would assume record sales to go along with it. No corresponding uptick in crime to date. It's not about crime, it's about control.

Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Trapper7] #6844378
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The difference is if a nut job shoots up a school ALL gun owners will condemn it, if a terrorist blows up an Army Base in the land of sand very few Muslims would condemn it.

Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Rat Masterson] #6844396
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
The difference is if a nut job shoots up a school ALL gun owners will condemn it, if a terrorist blows up an Army Base in the land of sand very few Muslims would condemn it.


That was going to be my response to loosegoose's post.

Some Muslims owned a commodities shop near my office at the time of 911. They were seen celebrating after the towers went down. Needless to say, their shop went out of business 6 months later.

I work in an area where there are many Muslims. Some are decent, hard working people that I've gotten to know.

My post is a reflection of how the left and the MSM view things.


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Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Trapper7] #6844447
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Some very true statements for sure.


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Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Trapper7] #6844561
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Virginia tea party anyone?


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Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Trapper7] #6844597
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K snow, Iím all for public assembly as long as you can guarantee me and everyone there they wonít get the virus, end up in a hospital for 2 weeks and be staring at $100,000+ in medical bills. The public health aspect of protection by shutting down religious assembly for a couple months is to keep everyone safe. And to all those who go to such assemblages and get sick, donít you dare ask your insurance carrier or go to the public trough seeking money to pay your medical bills when you knew the ban was in place but you did it anyway.

I donít like to see any religious/cultural group cheering when America is attacked. But cheering isnít the same thing as shooting up a school, or killing people at night clubs, or shooting people at a synagogue. Words vs death. I believe there are too many guns available to too many out of control people. If American gun owners wonít police their ranks but cutting down on the availability of guns, the government has that responsibility.


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Originally Posted by Teacher
K snow, Iím all for public assembly as long as you can guarantee me and everyone there they wonít get the virus, end up in a hospital for 2 weeks and be staring at $100,000+ in medical bills. The public health aspect of protection by shutting down religious assembly for a couple months is to keep everyone safe. And to all those who go to such assemblages and get sick, donít you dare ask your insurance carrier or go to the public trough seeking money to pay your medical bills when you knew the ban was in place but you did it anyway.

I donít like to see any religious/cultural group cheering when America is attacked. But cheering isnít the same thing as shooting up a school, or killing people at night clubs, or shooting people at a synagogue. Words vs death. I believe there are too many guns available to too many out of control people. If American gun owners wonít police their ranks but cutting down on the availability of guns, the government has that responsibility.



You and I are on way different sides of the fence then.

Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Teacher] #6844617
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Originally Posted by Teacher
If American gun owners wonít police their ranks but cutting down on the availability of guns, the government has that responsibility.



It's none of my business how many and what kind of guns you have, and it's none of your business how many and what kind of guns I have. That goes double for the government.

If you think the government has the resources and ability to enact effective (unconstitutional) gun control, maybe you haven't heard about the war on drugs.

Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Trapper7] #6844626
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Opps, he has a point ya know?


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Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: loosegoose] #6844630
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by Trapper7
We are told not to judge All Muslims on the action of a few lunatics.

But, we are encouraged to judge All gun owners on the actions of a few lunatics.

Funny how that works.


It goes both ways. There are plenty of people who don't want to be judged by the actions of one crazy guy with a gun, and yet are willing to judge all muslims by the acts of a few crazy muslims. It's wrong in both cases.

The Quran says to convert the Infidel by the sword....Make no mistake they are instructed to either convert you or kill you, and if they thought they had the upper hand right now they would attack to bring about Sharia Law.

There are no good Muslims at their core, to believe otherwise is pure ignorance of the truth.


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Originally Posted by Teacher
K snow, I’m all for public assembly as long as you can guarantee me and everyone there they won’t get the virus, end up in a hospital for 2 weeks and be staring at $100,000+ in medical bills. The public health aspect of protection by shutting down religious assembly for a couple months is to keep everyone safe. And to all those who go to such assemblages and get sick, don’t you dare ask your insurance carrier or go to the public trough seeking money to pay your medical bills when you knew the ban was in place but you did it anyway.

I don’t like to see any religious/cultural group cheering when America is attacked. But cheering isn’t the same thing as shooting up a school, or killing people at night clubs, or shooting people at a synagogue. Words vs death. I believe there are too many guns available to too many out of control people. If American gun owners won’t police their ranks but cutting down on the availability of guns, the government has that responsibility.



The percentage of Americans with guns is much higher than the percentage of Muslims. Look at some of the countries that have high percentages of Muslims. The killings percentage wise is much higher than gun owners in America. In some of those countries they killed thousands of Christians who wouldn't convert to Islam.


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Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Trapper7] #6844722
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hope the VA gov gets thrown out during the next election and fed to the dogs.. such a sick individual.

Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Trapper7] #6844742
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The number of guns I have has no bearing on anyone's safety, except mine and my family. Limiting guns to law abiding citizens is like taking the sober drivers off the road so they don't get killed by drunk drivers.

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look up what the word JIHAD means....someone said it correct above. convert them to islam or kill them. this is what they believe

Re: Justification For Gun Control? [Re: Rat Masterson] #6845130
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
The number of guns I have has no bearing on anyone's safety, except mine and my family. Limiting guns to law abiding citizens is like taking the sober drivers off the road so they don't get killed by drunk drivers.

That's it.

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