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Re: FHA results? [Re: 080808] #6846184
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Guys here that had fur on the sale said their beaver avgs were good.$25-27.I had no fur on the sales this year-all went to dressers.


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Re: FHA results? [Re: 080808] #6846454
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That's BS BOCO as far as I have seen or heard FHA has only posted prices on select goods. And that doesn't make for a true average. Same with eastern coyotes.


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Re: FHA results? [Re: 080808] #6846460
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I'm talking about the beaver avgs trappers in my area got not the auction avg.One guy had around 40 beaver sold-2 unsold all sizes and dmgs in 25 US
and another guy had around same 27 avg.Have heard similar from a bunch of guys at the workshops all across the region from those that had fur on the sale.
There is a lot of areas like N michigan and Minnesota that have similar beaver as long as they are not taken too early or too late.
I'm sure some had similar avgs if they shipped good beaver no scrap early or late caught.

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Re: FHA results? [Re: The Beav] #6846537
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[quote=The Beav]That's BS BOCO as far as I have seen or heard FHA has only posted prices on select goods. And that doesn't make for a true average. Same with eastern coyotes. [/quote

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Re: FHA results? [Re: 080808] #6846619
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I think fha would have mentioned those high beaver averages if they where that high, like they did with there inflated eastern coyote "select average" quote.....there keeping everything a secret for a reason.....I think theres going to be a lot of disappointed trappers when they see there PT checks.

Re: FHA results? [Re: tmrschessie] #6846788
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I never go by the posted auction avg's to tell me what my section will bring,I go by the avgs trappers in my own area get for their fur.it is always at least 10% and often more than that, than the posted auction avgs.
The posted auction avgs include all the junk, poorer sections and inferior handled fur etc.
We have one of the better sections of beaver here-similar to minnesota and N michigan.
Posted auction avg's tell me nothing about my area fur sales-just like they would be meaningless to a collection from the south,just gives an indication which way the overall market is trending.
Most trappers know that.

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Re: FHA results? [Re: 080808] #6846792
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Boco we are talking about the FHA auction results In this thread.

Boco If a person from down south can view his lots and see what those pelts sold for then that person will see how his type of hides are trending in this market. But If you can't view those results then you are for sure being left In the dark about the market.

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Re: FHA results? [Re: 080808] #6846799
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For who? Just certain people from a certain area?If you want useful real avg's you would want to hear from shippers from different sections to get useful information.I just told you the avg trappers got for beaver in this area?Which is a similar section to Mn and N Mi.
Do you not realize the avgs are different for fur from different areas?
Sometimes I dont know why I bother to contribute information on here at all.

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Re: FHA results? [Re: 080808] #6846806
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Re: FHA results? [Re: 080808] #6846808
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Well dont worry about it then.


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Re: FHA results? [Re: 080808] #6846810
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You must not have read my post. If you have your lot numbers then If you can view the results of that lot then you can determine how your hides measure up In this market. Of coarse there may be 1000 similar hides In that lot so know you will even have a better Idea how your hides measure up.


That seems pretty simple to me.


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What does Bocos or someone from Alabama's average have to do with FHA only giving out the sale average of the best furs, and not the true average of all furs sold?

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Re: FHA results? [Re: hippie] #6846877
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Originally Posted by hippie
What does Bocos or someone from Alabama's average have to do with FHA only giving out the sale average of the best furs, and not the true average of all furs sold?


The auction companies - FHA and NAFA - have never given out true averages. The averages have always been for Section I Goods from sundry owners. On rare occasion, usually for beaver, they will post a Section III average.

Dealer goods are not included in the average.


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Re: FHA results? [Re: 080808] #6846914
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Those are awesome Ave boco. Up here in northern sask I dont start beavs until the ice is off which is usually start of may. Right now we have 2 feet of snow still so my beavers are all slt damaged at best. I ave 12 us at last sale. That's for 108 beavs so far all sizes except small. However I get a $30 bounty on their tail, plus sell bodies for bear bait at 10 a piece plus the castor. Lots of guys dont even bother with skinning them but I do.

Re: FHA results? [Re: wissmiss] #6846929
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Originally Posted by hippie
What does Bocos or someone from Alabama's average have to do with FHA only giving out the sale average of the best furs, and not the true average of all furs sold?


The auction companies - FHA and NAFA - have never given out true averages. The averages have always been for Section I Goods from sundry owners. On rare occasion, usually for beaver, they will post a Section III average.

Dealer goods are not included in the average.



But It doesn't take a math professor to look at all the beaver lots and come up with an over all average on beaver.
That Is If your allowed to see all those lots.


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Re: FHA results? [Re: 080808] #6846935
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Beav a few years back fha did not post thier sold catalog on the internut. Steven49 and I expressed a desire on here to see such information and if memory serves a few weeks later it happened. Much like your effort to see valuations. The sold catalog has been available for several years and fact checking boco's claims are available to anybody who goes to the fha website.

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Re: FHA results? [Re: 080808] #6846966
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beaver prices are listed as section I eastern $17.20 avg or section III $9.20 boco you are correct on your avgs 17.20 us works out to basically $25 canadian ead the first page of the report it will tell you actually what was shipped basically and for you that only read what you want it said they brought back most section1 grades

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