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How cats avoid your traps -- watch this #6850057
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This video perfectly demonstrates how cats avoid your trap pan in trail/walk through/blind/flat sets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liy0afJ8Gzw

Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850074
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Ok that's it I am boxing in with colored children's block toys next season


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Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850100
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Hardly even broke stride.

Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850109
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Notice how the cat hugged the wall?

And notice how the dog was all about sniffing and smelling the Legos? If you were doing a lure test and had applied lure to one or more of the Legos, you would incorrectly determine that the dog was interested in the lure but the cat was not.

Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850113
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I would love to taut how a rub set or trail set up against a rock face are proof that cats are not using their nose but the truth is I catch too many in the most subtle lured coyote sets I make.

I consider it a good problem to have LOL

It is cool how he really never breaks stride and just waltzes thru like it is nothing


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Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850248
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Wow! Makes perfect sense. Cats are sure stealthy critters.

Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850296
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As soon as that cat clears the corner, it appears he already has his foot placement figured. Amazing how fast some animals analyze their envronment.






Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850375
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Not what I expected, but very cool.


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Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850383
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Good video!

Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850435
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Very cool


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Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850472
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Is the glass half full or half empty? I see it different than posted. This shows how heavily you can block a cat to get it to step where you want. That is how I see it anyway.


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Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850475
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The way I interpreded it also.


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Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Boco] #6850554
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Originally Posted by strike2x
Is the glass half full or half empty? I see it different than posted. This shows how heavily you can block a cat to get it to step where you want. That is how I see it anyway.


Originally Posted by Boco
The way I interpreded it also.


X3- I didn't want to poo poo on Laz's post but that is exactly what went thru my mind. Then I remember boxing in some exposed sets and thinking "Wow, it looks like 2 seven year olds just made a gag set" only to find a cat snagged up in the brush nearby at some point.

There is a huge reaction difference tho, Laz nailed that. The cat waltzes through w/o even giving it a thought and the dog starts using his nose. He is probably thinking "What prick laid this out?"


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Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850557
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Great video.

On the first attempt, the dog avoided the domino's well but couldn't resist stopping to sniff a foreign object even in mid stride. He only knocked 1 down with his right hind leg as he took his time investigating the foreign objects. the 2nd time he was rushed (maybe because the owner called it) but the 3rd time he slowed down but once one was knocked down he was startled then rushed.

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Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850560
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I didn't have an interpretation other than to show that if you think you've boxed a cat out or in, and left him no place to step but on the pan, he can and probably will find a place to step that avoids your pan.

Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850564
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I would really like to see a coyote work through this same Lego mine field. My suspicion is that a coyote's foot placement would be more careful and precise than the dog's, but don't know. I know when I take my dog into the field at the first of trapping season, he's always coming back for me to pull cactus clumps out of his feet but as the season wears on and he gets more mileage, that rarely happens. I think he learns to be more careful and precise with his footing among all the cactus, sharp rocks and sticks.

Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850568
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My guess is the coyote leaves you a big turd and then goes around LOL


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Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850651
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Wow, that's really interesting! It chooses the path of least resistance and does so automatically. After he added blocks up against the wall, the cat instantly found the widest opening/path and followed it. If you pause it at 1:10 you can see the widest opening. Not wider by much, but enough that the cat sees it and goes right to it.

Having found that foreign video on cat behavior, tells you where Tracy's mind is all the time. laugh


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Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850682
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So apparently just block the heck out of it to get a cat.

Re: How cats avoid your traps -- watch this [Re: Lazarus] #6850706
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One would think that would make sense when your not covering your pan on cat sets, however the opening on the pan makes the cat want to place the paw right on it, this vid should prove that point as well, due to automatically picking the open avenue.

Shows that guiding does have it's merits per the target you seek !

I doubt a coyote would even attempt to jump that, but would merely walk around or on by !


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