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can a presidential canidate get dropped #6852118
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can a presidential candidate get dropped at their convention? democrat/republican, even if he /she won all the delegates in the primaries? i'm not an expert on things like that....but been seeing rumours that joe might get whacked at the convention and that Andrew cumuo could get the nod....is this possible? please don't turn this into a sideshow guys....I would like to come back to see intelligent replies instead of seeing this post got the axe.


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852135
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Yes. If I'm not mistaken basically Bernie had the last democratic nomination pretty well wrapped up, but they went with Hillary.

I don't know about the legalities of it with a person who wasn't on the ballot at all though.


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852136
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Yes likely anyone know the democrats don't care about the voters Clinton won last time instead of sanders

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852137
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I'm sure each party has mechanisms to drop a candidate, or choose a replacement in case of incapacitation

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852142
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I don't believe Primaries are legally binding. The democrat National committee is an independent organization and uses the primary as a "suggestion". ( I think)

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852159
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I believe a party can choose whoever it wants as a candidate. The primaries are just to give them an idea of who the people want.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852160
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They can go with whomever they want. This Coronavirus is saving Biden as I unbiasedly think the guy has dementia, Alzheimer's, or something.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: elkaholic] #6852161
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Originally Posted by elkaholic
Yes. If I'm not mistaken basically Bernie had the last democratic nomination pretty well wrapped up, but they went with Hillary.

I don't know about the legalities of it with a person who wasn't on the ballot at all though.

Beenie didn't have it wrapped up. They did take a state or two away from em but Hillary still won handily. Bernie bid the naked version of the Democrats in office, and nobody wants to see that ugliness nakeecso they voted for someone that has some clothes. That's why everyone bailed to Biden in this primary.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852164
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They won't dump Biden unless he allows it to happen or he becomes incapacitated.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: TurkeyTime] #6852168
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Originally Posted by TurkeyTime
They can go with whomever they want. This Coronavirus is saving Biden as I unbiasedly think the guy has dementia, Alzheimer's, or something.


Cuomo is getting more press coverage than Biden. They're pushing Cuomo.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852172
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Every on knows Bernie would have won if not for all of the other candidates, cept biden, quitting just ahead of Super Tuesday.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852182
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My understanding is that the delegates won in the primaries are obligated to vote for the candidate who won them for the first vote only. If that vote does not result in the requisite number required for nomination, the delegates can vote for whomever they choose on the subsequent votes. At this point, due to the number of primaries that have been postponed and may be cancelled, Biden does not have the required number of committed delegates to win on the first vote. For this election it does not seem to matter given that all the other candidates have withdrawn and committed their support to Biden, or the candidate they committed to has by now committed to Biden. However, the Cuomo daily news briefs do make one wonder what is going on.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852199
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I believe that the rules in place at the moment limit the dems to biden or sanders. But rules can be changed, maybe.


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852212
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Those daily Cuomo news briefs by Cuomo are not about the Corona virus, he's lapping up the free publicity and a lot of people think he's wonderful. He's had his eye on the white house for years. I don't know the legality in nominating, but I don't know how they could dump Biden without causing a huge uproar. Obviously there is something wrong with him, but let me tell you that Cuomo is awful.,He 's the guy that ignored Remington Arms offer to help manufacture in this crisis, and he's the guy that sneaked through the "Safe Act" in the dark of the night.
He's begging for more Federal money, but he's the guy that put the state in the hole in the first place. He created NYC as a "sanctuary" city, and he's the guy that thinks it's OK to kill a newborn baby.He even named a bridge after his father.He's just like an eel, very, very slippery.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852221
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Well if coumo is their guy i believe they will save him till 2024. They may start putting him front and center until then as a more reasonable democrat candidate.


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: Fisher Man] #6852233
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Originally Posted by Fisher Man
Those daily Cuomo news briefs by Cuomo are not about the Corona virus, he's lapping up the free publicity and a lot of people think he's wonderful. He's had his eye on the white house for years. I don't know the legality in nominating, but I don't know how they could dump Biden without causing a huge uproar. Obviously there is something wrong with him, but let me tell you that Cuomo is awful.,He 's the guy that ignored Remington Arms offer to help manufacture in this crisis, and he's the guy that sneaked through the "Safe Act" in the dark of the night.
He's begging for more Federal money, but he's the guy that put the state in the hole in the first place. He created NYC as a "sanctuary" city, and he's the guy that thinks it's OK to kill a newborn baby.He even named a bridge after his father.He's just like an eel, very, very slippery.


Funny how it seems Cuomo gets more tv time with his virus briefing then the president does with his

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852235
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Remember that Bernie has not relinquished his delegates to Biden. That MIGHT play a part.
But also consider that Odungo has endorsed Biden. Would it be too embarrassing to The One if they now dumped Biden ?


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Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: foxkidd44] #6852237
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The Democrats maintain a giant fudge factor called Super Delegates. Back when, Bernie would win a state, yet Hillary still picked up delegates from the same state. The national party bosses always have a big say in who the ultimate candidate is.

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Super delegates can only get involved if the first vote fails to garher the required numbers.

Re: can a presidential canidate get dropped [Re: TurkeyTime] #6852256
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Originally Posted by TurkeyTime
They can go with whomever they want. This Coronavirus is saving Biden as I unbiasedly think the guy has dementia, Alzheimer's, or something.


While true it would have consequences with in the party. Why have a primary where the "voters" supposedly pick a candidate when the party leaders are going to dump him and change horses at the convention?

As with in 2016 its become clear to anyone who has his eyes open that the Democrat party chooses the nominee, not the voters.

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