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Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6853955
04/24/20 06:49 PM
04/24/20 06:49 PM
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I'm not seeing many opening in my area. With the restrictions you must follow to open its not worth the trouble.


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Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: warrior] #6854196
04/25/20 12:31 AM
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Roughly 85-90% of the citizens of the US feel the mitigation and stay safer at home is appropriate so we will see how much participation this brings about. Could work if people are cautious and also businesses. Could also be the worst of both worlds, more cases and still no recovery.

Bryce

Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854292
04/25/20 08:52 AM
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People forget so soon......

Remember, The stay at home and other measures were sold as a method to "flatten the curve" allowing hospitals to prepare and not be overwhelmed.

Well the curve was flattened and hospitals were not overwhelmed.

We don't (never have) cured a virus infection, we live with them. Medicine (anti viral's) and hospitals provide supportive care until our own immune system can eliminate the problem.

Good for the Georgia Gov.,

Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854303
04/25/20 09:03 AM
04/25/20 09:03 AM
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WI>>>MN >>>WI
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Gov Walz of Minnesota gave a press conference on Thursday. Buried in his 1 hour sales pitch to continue quarantine was a statement to the effect: "Sooner or later we are all going to get it."

If that is true, and I believe it is; let's go about our business. Three cheers for Georgia, and Sweden while we're at it.


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Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854347
04/25/20 09:37 AM
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Country shouldnt have shut down in the first place Limestone quarry i retired from already has lost 3 million ton in orders close to half of last years production this means steel mills and road construction is already scaling back Great Lakes Shipping companies are putting their vessels back into layup some haven't even gone out
This isnt gonna just turn around cause some politician says ok tomorrow we're gonna open back up


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Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854412
04/25/20 10:47 AM
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It is the individuals responsibility to protect themself from this disease just like any other threat. Nobody is forcing anyone to.get a haircut or a tattoo. I refuse to let fear fundamentally change who I am or the values I believe in. That said this virus is a real threat to my goal of living forever. grin grin


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Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854417
04/25/20 10:56 AM
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Well Covid is on the rise in GA and the death toll will follow

Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854423
04/25/20 10:59 AM
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I don't see this as "Rights vs wrong", or even "right or wrong"........it should be a common sense, fact based decision.

For example.......if you asked the Governor or mayors.......how many people......right now........people walking around on the streets of Athens or Atlanta or any other town or city in GA.........how many are testing positive for the virus? They don't know. How many.....if you tested them........would test positive for the antibodies? They don't know. The people making the decisions.......and those being critical......don't know. They could know if they bothered to do random testing for both, but that does not seem to be the case. If it is.....neither side has said so.

What we do know is that anywhere you look, be it a cruise ship, an aircraft carrier......a meat packing plant......NYC......New Orleans.......prisons, a nursing home........there are only so many people in any of these closed environment situations that seem to even get the virus......let alone get sick enough to require treatment for it, let alone die from it.

Saline County, MO now has about 120 folks testing positive. Nearly all of those are employees of meat packing plants. Of those, only 3 are actually in hospitals. That is out of a county with about 20,000 total population. This is not the end of days scenario we were told it was going to be.

Next question.......what is the difference between an "essential" worker vs. one that is "non-essential"? Do not both sets of folks face the same risks? Is a checkout clerk at Walmart at any less risk than the same person at Hobby Lobby? One is essential, the other is not.

Instead, when you watch reports, media reports things in such as way as to influence opinion....not to inform you of facts. Doesn't a flight attendant on a Delta flight face as much or greater risk than a barber? Yet one is OK.....essential......the other is deemed more or less frivolous........and should not be happening. In how many reports of the GA situation have you seen references to bowling alleys? Like that is a major risk to all mankind.

So the facts seem to be this is not going to be a widespread "end of days" event, so take off all the stay at home orders........let folks open up that want to, let folks stay home if they want to......and let the chips fall where they may.

Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854425
04/25/20 10:59 AM
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The same discernment that causes zebra to run from hungry lions and not lounging ones has been taught out of people for the past 45 years.

Good luck with the common sense thingy.


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Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: danvee] #6854443
04/25/20 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by danvee
Well Covid is on the rise in GA and the death toll will follow

Only on the rise because more and more testing is made available and being done.


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Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854495
04/25/20 12:57 PM
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He’s 100% right. We can’t have a national policy based on what’s happening in NYC. Get back to work America!!!


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Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854506
04/25/20 01:27 PM
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Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854518
04/25/20 01:44 PM
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Everybody is going to get Covid19. It's like the cold - everybody gets it eventually. As we all know, flattening the curve is about not overwhelming the healthcare system. It's not going to prevent us from getting it, just spread out when we get it.

We could (1) let everybody get it at once and overwhelm the hospitals and lots more people die because they can't get a bed, (2) shut down everything and lock everybody at home. This prevents the spread but destroys the country, and infections will peak again when we start socializing again.

Or....

We can open and close that valve to control how many get it. Shut some things down, open others and keep adjusting that throttle to control the numbers. Keep the infection rate low enough that the hospitals can handle it but keep the infection rate high enough that we can get this over with and get back to work.

We're going to see a lot of moving that throttle over the next few months as they try to get just the right infection rate.


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Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854565
04/25/20 02:46 PM
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Unlike what I just watched the NY Governor just say, not everyone that gets it will die. Yes, we will have deaths. And yes, there’s those it won’t affect. And even those that won’t require hospitalization. I can just make an uneducated guess here, but I’d be willing to bet, not everyone in the hospital needs to be there. The more than can fill up the hospitals the more money they get. Now before someone says be careful what you say because you could get it...I’m worth more dead than alive, lol.

Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: maintenanceguy] #6854599
04/25/20 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
Everybody is going to get Covid19. It's like the cold - everybody gets it eventually. As we all know, flattening the curve is about not overwhelming the healthcare system. It's not going to prevent us from getting it, just spread out when we get it.

We could (1) let everybody get it at once and overwhelm the hospitals and lots more people die because they can't get a bed, (2) shut down everything and lock everybody at home. This prevents the spread but destroys the country, and infections will peak again when we start socializing again.

Or....

We can open and close that valve to control how many get it. Shut some things down, open others and keep adjusting that throttle to control the numbers. Keep the infection rate low enough that the hospitals can handle it but keep the infection rate high enough that we can get this over with and get back to work.

We're going to see a lot of moving that throttle over the next few months as they try to get just the right infection rate.


That is a great theory, but some of those controlling the throttle have an agenda that has nothing to do with the virus.

Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: trapdog1] #6854667
04/25/20 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
Everybody is going to get Covid19. It's like the cold - everybody gets it eventually. As we all know, flattening the curve is about not overwhelming the healthcare system. It's not going to prevent us from getting it, just spread out when we get it.

We could (1) let everybody get it at once and overwhelm the hospitals and lots more people die because they can't get a bed, (2) shut down everything and lock everybody at home. This prevents the spread but destroys the country, and infections will peak again when we start socializing again.

Or....

We can open and close that valve to control how many get it. Shut some things down, open others and keep adjusting that throttle to control the numbers. Keep the infection rate low enough that the hospitals can handle it but keep the infection rate high enough that we can get this over with and get back to work.

We're going to see a lot of moving that throttle over the next few months as they try to get just the right infection rate.


That is a great theory, but some of those controlling the throttle have an agenda that has nothing to do with the virus.


I think you're right. There is an interest in hurting people and damaging the economy for political gain.


-Ryan
Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854789
04/25/20 07:17 PM
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If by opening and closing the valve you mean the economy forget it.The economy doesn't work that way.Open it up and get out of the way


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Re: Is Ga gov Correct ? [Re: jbyrd63] #6854877
04/25/20 08:15 PM
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Why bowling alleys in GA. Would be different if it was Chicago or Wisconsin.

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