And caught and controlled.Deregulate you will have a nightmare.

I don't think anyone is in favor of making unsanitary conditions, just allowing places to sell to whom they choose.

The meat industry was regulated for a reason.
To keep diseased animals out of the food chain and to ensure pathogens dont make thousands of people sick-way worse than covid.Salmonella,Staphylococcus,E-coli-Listeria and a bunch of others that can be deadly and can kill a lot of people.

There have been outbreaks that kill people.
If they de regulate large processing facilities you will see what happens.

There is no reason a state inspected plant shouldn't be able to sell meat within that state at least.

More small local processors would allow for more opportunities to market animals.

Locker plants can sell meat as long as the inspector was there at butchering. I sell halves and quarters as long as they pick it up at the locker plant. If you have the local inspector approve your freezer, you can sell at home.

I agree with Boco on this one.

Asking for trouble

Who regulates the health of wild game and seafood?

There have been outbreaks that kill people.
If they de regulate large processing facilities you will see what happens.

I said small processors big processors are dangerous and the USDA inspectors are often corrupt

Regulations are are small part of why "farmers" don't butcher and sell to the public.

He's gonna need a freezer to hang them in, somewhere to put all the off-fallings and more importantly the time to fiddle with it and still farm.

Most don't have a clue.

In oregon you are not supposed to provide a place -- off site or onsite by meat co only

Most wont ,but some will
When i was a kid several people bought pigs from my grandpa we all got together and butchered those pigs . The people that bought those hogs helped butcher those hogs . It was a great community experience. It is illegal to do this . I can sell you a pig and provide you a place to butcher it but i cannot assist you in butchering it. It should be legal for me to help you

When I sell wild meat here I have to give a note with it to the buyer stating it has not been inspected,thats it.Its up to him to check it before he eats it.
Wild meat bought like that is for personal use only.

Selling wild meat is forbidden across most if not all of the US. A holdover of our establishment of game laws was the blanket prohibition on market hunting.

Should be legal to butcher livestock you raise, and sell the meat, without any government interference. There wont be any more diseases show up from eating that meat than show up in meat from big packing houses that are inspected.

The big corporate processors, you know, the ones creating a "shortage" and talking about producers not being able to ship because they are shutting down plants, know this to be true. They just want to hang on to their monopoly of both price paid for livestock and price paid for the butchered meat.

Those big packing houses do need inspected. The guy feeding out 100 head of calves does not. The guy butchering what he raises wont sell much if his facility is not clean and his animals fat and healthy.

People might not want to do it this way but if you cut it up fresh, you can wet age or dry age the meat at home .

People might not want to do it this way but if you cut it up fresh, you can wet age or dry age the meat at home .

I spent my career working for government in food safety (restaurants) but my Ag counterparts saw the same thing with food processors. That being said, I can say nobody gets up in the morning and says, let’s see what I can do to make customers sick and destroy my business. But it happens all the time. Unbelievably insanitary conditions, people working while sick, bad temperature control, cross-contamination, rats, cockroaches, equipment not working as it should, buildings that have leaky roofs that have birds defecating in batch tanks, mislabeled, old product being offered with colored over-wraps and “funny” lighting to make it look fresh.

Then there’s the parent who likes to get unpasteurized milk right off the farm. If they make the decision to do so for themselves that’s fine, but they never bother to recognize their kids are a whole lot more vulnerable than they are. And the kids end up deathly sick with E. coli or brucellosis and any number of things. Too much of this has happened and it’s one of the reasons states generally ban this avenue of sales.

The regulations are there to protect the public. Now if the public doesn’t want to safely hold/process their food it opens a whole new can of worms. And they hold the retailers, wholesalers, truckers and producers accountable. Ask Lazarus—I’ll bet he’s seen his share of food product liability cases.

Here in KS it is legal as your back door to sell coon beaver or muskrat meat. Or anything else you trap somebody wants to eat. It is legal to dress the animal beyond just skinning it. Remove glands guts head etc. Tularemia, round worms, tape worms, salmonella, E coli, giardia, are all very real possibilities selling wild animals for consumption. Still it is legal.

To tell somebody they can't sell a hog the same way is to much authority to allow our government to have. If you buy a walk in cooler, a tractor with a front end loader, an electric carcass splitting saw, a band saw, and a meat grinder, want to sell beef or hog meat you raised to the public, how is that not your right?. People are still free to buy all the mystery meat they want at walmart.

The answer is simple. The livestock producer would double his money and still be able to sell cheaper than meat processed by tyson, excell, national beef, cargill etc. They contribute serious money to political campaigns. They tell everyone meat processed by anyone else is "unsafe". The trapper selling a few coons has no effect on them so somehow that little niche market is safe.

Teacher, you have a right to your opinion. What I dont get is how many different careers you claim to have had. Having drank thousands of gallons of raw milk and having raised my kids on thousands more, it is very possible to buy from people with healthy cows clean barns and tanks. A good canary in the coal mine is if they are drinking it their selves. Anybody not smart enough to know thats best ought to not be procreating successfully anyway.

TraderVic if you would rather buy mystery meat at walmart instead of from a producer its fine with me. When I was a kid we butchered everything late fall when the weather was cooperating. I DO have access to a walk in cooler. What I think needs to be legal is for the guy who owns and raises the livestock to be able to do the butchering and sell meat as well as live animals. Without a bunch of extra government generated expense and regulation .

No vic I do not raise livestock. I am furious that packers are trying to do what oil companies did in the 70's. A little deregulation would be good for consumers.

I don't deal much with small Locker Plants , especially the ones that sell meat over the counter ,I have taken in prime beef and picked up old rancid beef (part) ad the same with pork ,Also every locker I have tried has there own unique flavor some times good some times not so good . I know of one that my beef came back and had a fishy taste to some , did a little checking and sure enough they also cut up fish . Some are real honest and do a good job but we really need some regulation to sell over the counter .