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Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! #6857359
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Ok one story you don't hear much about is how Sweden has handled this corona mess. NOTHING changed as far as the general public. ONLY thing shut down is nursing homes and elderly folks are ask to stay away from crowds. Their death rate per capita is lower than ours !!!! Kids in school economy intact. No hand outs because government forced people to close. Ok so who handled this right . IF we destroyed our economy, fell trillions farther in debt , PLUS got Biden elected than I vote we dropped the ball.
They want to base Everything on stats then use all of them. A country that changed nothing has the same death rate as those that closed and cowered in place . HMMMMMMM??

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/26/8452...-immunity-in-may-swedish-ambassador-says

Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: jbyrd63] #6857364
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Hmmmmmmm..

Move there then.


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Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: jbyrd63] #6857370
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Ok one story you don't hear much about is how Sweden has handled this corona mess. NOTHING changed as far as the general public. ONLY thing shut down is nursing homes and elderly folks are ask to stay away from crowds. Their death rate per capita is lower than ours !!!! Kids in school economy intact. No hand outs because government forced people to close. Ok so who handled this right . IF we destroyed our economy, fell trillions farther in debt , PLUS got Biden elected than I vote we dropped the ball.
They want to base Everything on stats then use all of them. A country that changed nothing has the same death rate as those that closed and cowered in place . HMMMMMMM??

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/26/8452...-immunity-in-may-swedish-ambassador-says


You sure make a lot of noise for a little feller laugh

Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: whartonrattrappe] #6857376
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The death rate in Sweden is about 5 times the rate of neighboring countries, [Norway, Finland, Denmark]. So yeah, great job Sweden!

Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: jbyrd63] #6857378
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Dont know about Sweden, but anyone who thinks we got it right, (US and Canada) has their head in the sand. We ruined an entire economy and added so much to the national debt it puts us in a very precarious position for years to come....all for a virus with a mortality rate about like the flu.

Two California doctors gave a press conference a few days ago that everyone should watch. They laid out the real facts.


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Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: jbyrd63] #6857383
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Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: yukon254] #6857390
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Originally Posted by yukon254
Dont know about Sweden, but anyone who thinks we got it right, (US and Canada) has their head in the sand. We ruined an entire economy and added so much to the national debt it puts us in a very precarious position for years to come....all for a virus with a mortality rate about like the flu.

Two California doctors gave a press conference a few days ago that everyone should watch. They laid out the real facts.


If it is the one I am thinking it is, I watched it yesterday. Made the most sense of anything I have seen date and used only verifiable, publicly available data.

But unfortunately, the You Tube Police have censored and removed the video. They apparently do not want Facts made available to the masses!

The short version ----- they understood why the actions were taken initially, based on projected scenarios. But now we have hard data that shows that those early projections were way off. And the reality does not support the drastic measures continuing. They also pointed out the myriad of other problems that the continuing shutdown is and will cause.


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Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: corky] #6857392
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Sweden as opted for the longer term herd immunity approach. It maybe a better route we don't know for sure. About a month ago Trump was stating how bad things in Sweden were in one of his briefings. I have not heard him or any others on the task force raising the issue of using herd immunity as the method. Over time herd immunity will probably come about, it is just what percent of the world population will be forced be isolated and how long. In the USA there are roughly 50 million people over 65 years old and if they are isolated for extended periods they won't contribute a lot to the total economy.

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You tube has blocked laura Ingrams show, and the dr segment and other fox news

Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: mskrtman] #6857407
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Originally Posted by mskrtman
The death rate in Sweden is about 5 times the rate of neighboring countries, [Norway, Finland, Denmark]. So yeah, great job Sweden!


Yea and New York's death rate is a little OVER 12,500 TIMES OVER KY !!! Whats your point? Look at some of New yorks neighboring states Big difference !!!!

Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: mskrtman] #6857441
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Originally Posted by mskrtman
The death rate in Sweden is about 5 times the rate of neighboring countries, [Norway, Finland, Denmark]. So yeah, great job Sweden!


You need to go look at the data. Compare it to it's next door neighbor Norway that did lock down. Very little difference in the infection or mortality rate.


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Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: jbyrd63] #6857445
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Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: corky] #6857446
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Originally Posted by corky



From the article, "Foreign residents, particularly those from Somalia who are more likely to live in multi-generational households, are also overrepresented in the figures."

Somalis are a big part of the problem with the spread of Covid-19 here in the US too. Somalis failure to follow the rules is why our meat packaging industry is crippled. Somalis also spread Covid-19 badly in Italy and Greece. We should not allow poor quality immigrants like Somalis into the US ever again.

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where is not sure to fix our ecomony.


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Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: The Possum Man] #6857472
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Current as of yesterday worldwide data

Sweden 19,621 cases 2355 deaths 12% death rate be confirmed case
Denmark 8851 cases 434 deaths 4.7%
Norway 7619 cases 206 deaths 2.7%
Finland 4740 cases 199 deaths 4.1%

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The largest Scandinavian country by area is Sweden. This nation is also the most populous with a population exceeding 10 million. Both Norway and Denmark each have less than 6 million inhabitants. Total population of all Scandinavian countries is 29 million.

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According to the data Bryce just presented, Sweden's superb handling of the crisis has resulted in three times as many deaths as Norway, Denmark and Finland COMBINED!

Re: Sweden GOT IT RIGHT !!! [Re: corky] #6857536
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Originally Posted by corky
The largest Scandinavian country by area is Sweden. This nation is also the most populous with a population exceeding 10 million. Both Norway and Denmark each have less than 6 million inhabitants. Total population of all Scandinavian countries is 29 million.



Sweden only has a population density of 64 people per square mile compared to Denmark's 347 people per square mile. You would think all other things being equal, that Denmark would have many more cases proportionately due to it's population density being over 5 times greater.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
You would think all other things being equal, that Denmark would have many more cases proportionately due to it's population density being over 5 times greater.

Keith


But they arenít equal, are they? Based on what you said there is no comparison and no point in comparing that way.


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Originally Posted by KeithC
You would think all other things being equal, that Denmark would have many more cases proportionately due to it's population density being over 5 times greater.

Keith


But they arenít equal, are they? Based on what you said there is no comparison and no point in comparing that way.


My point was Sweden's experiment likely led to a much higher infection and death rate.

Keith

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