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Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: rex123] #6868387
05/10/20 08:55 AM
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Don’t forget the money that’s available for States dealing with the virus a lot could be a race for those dollars, more deaths equal more dollars. Some States are claiming most deaths as virus related to get their numbers up.

Last edited by Law Dog; 05/10/20 08:57 AM.

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Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: LLtrapper] #6868425
05/10/20 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Originally Posted by Macthediver
I seem to recall the potus telling us when he first got in office.. That he had a wonderful medical plan to replace Obamacare and it would include coverage for folks with preexisting conditions.. Kinda think when he had his meeting alone with Chinese leader he got vaccinated for covid-19..Then was just all timing to pop the cork on them Chinese protesters. Bring it here to take care of folks with preexisting condition..
Pretty easy to see how all that worked out..Win Win for China and potus..All just a numbers game with whole deal..

Mac


OK that is by far the most outrageous comment I have ever read about covid 19. Congrats because there have been many. LLL


Musta missed its meds this morn!!


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Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: Macthediver] #6868427
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Originally Posted by Macthediver
I seem to recall the potus telling us when he first got in office.. That he had a wonderful medical plan to replace Obamacare and it would include coverage for folks with preexisting conditions.. Kinda think when he had his meeting alone with Chinese leader he got vaccinated for covid-19..Then was just all timing to pop the cork on them Chinese protesters. Bring it here to take care of folks with preexisting condition..
Pretty easy to see how all that worked out..Win Win for China and potus..All just a numbers game with whole deal..

Mac


Yup. I'll bet this is what happened.

Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: trapdog1] #6868435
05/10/20 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Macthediver
I seem to recall the potus telling us when he first got in office.. That he had a wonderful medical plan to replace Obamacare and it would include coverage for folks with preexisting conditions.. Kinda think when he had his meeting alone with Chinese leader he got vaccinated for covid-19..Then was just all timing to pop the cork on them Chinese protesters. Bring it here to take care of folks with preexisting condition..
Pretty easy to see how all that worked out..Win Win for China and potus..All just a numbers game with whole deal..

Mac


Yup. I'll bet this is what happened.


LOL


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Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: rex123] #6868445
05/10/20 10:04 AM
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Apparently 200 deaths per day in New York is the acceptable level. Havent seen the daily update for a couple days. I was wondering at what point or how many lives was it worth the effort to continue informing us on the "pandemic".

Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: rex123] #6868453
05/10/20 10:17 AM
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No way of knowing what the death rate in NY is. All we know is its lots lower than whats being told to us.

When people start lying I quit listening. Whats the point of listening. I am sick of hearing about the Chinese flu.

We are living in a nation of timid, believe anything a talking head on tv says, brain numbed sheep.

By the end of March when the homeless and incarcerated were still largely unaffected, it was obvious it was way way way overblown. Yet here we are and people are still not telling government they are done obeying and are now reclaiming their civil rights..


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: Macthediver] #6868461
05/10/20 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Macthediver
I seem to recall the potus telling us when he first got in office.. That he had a wonderful medical plan to replace Obamacare and it would include coverage for folks with preexisting conditions.. Kinda think when he had his meeting alone with Chinese leader he got vaccinated for covid-19..Then was just all timing to pop the cork on them Chinese protesters. Bring it here to take care of folks with preexisting condition..
Pretty easy to see how all that worked out..Win Win for China and potus..All just a numbers game with whole deal..

Mac

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Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: rex123] #6868463
05/10/20 10:28 AM
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Erie P.A. opened and was instantly flooded with NYers. crazy









Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: Diggerman] #6868473
05/10/20 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Apparently 200 deaths per day in New York is the acceptable level. Havent seen the daily update for a couple days. I was wondering at what point or how many lives was it worth the effort to continue informing us on the "pandemic".


If you haven't seen it, then you have not looked for it.

I have not missed a day of posting it.

I've been updating it late because I am working until
8:30 PM each night, but it's up there EVERY Day.

226 Dead in 24 hours from 5-8-2020 to 5-9-2020.

https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthr...w-york-state-covid-19-update#Post6868116

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Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: rex123] #6868485
05/10/20 10:50 AM
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how many of those two hundred people are dead of chinese flu? You don't know and neither do I. All we know for sure is the number is less. So why pay any attention to anything being said. If it was truly bad there would be no motive to lie.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: rex123] #6868493
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Anyone think putting positive cases in nursing homes had any effect on the death rate in New York? One county in Minn. has 899 cases confirmed and one death. Another county has over 1100 cases and 4 deaths. Average age in Minn. deaths still at 83

Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: rex123] #6868495
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The death rate per million population is higher than the U.S. in France, Italy, U.K. and Spain almost double in some of them.There are about 10 other countries that are higher also. So the answer to the original post is. IT'S NOT. As far as China is concerned they LIE.

Last edited by teepee2; 05/10/20 11:03 AM.
Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: teepee2] #6868515
05/10/20 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by teepee2
The death rate per million population is higher than the U.S. in France, Italy, U.K. and Spain almost double in some of them.There are about 10 other countries that are higher also. So the answer to the original post is. IT'S NOT. As far as China is concerned they LIE.


Geeze teepee2
No idea what your political affiliation is don't matter..
But you do know that only a good Christian Conservative, knows what the truth in this world is.. Only thing that can be conspiracy or corrupt or fake news has to be vetted by one them.. No one else is as enlightened or informed or opinion matters..
Get with the program..

Mac


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Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: rex123] #6868544
05/10/20 11:39 AM
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United States 36.20% 331,002,651 Obesity rate.

Top of the this list for any country over 5,000,000 people.

Maybe we have a lot of unhealthy people?


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Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: rex123] #6868545
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I think we should just ask Trump, so far corruption at the highest level, media collusion, lying by Dems. a hoax, wire tapping, deep state. All this happened,it is now a fact. So Trump was telling the truth. MAGA

Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: rex123] #6868560
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About 3 weeks ago, my doctor who is working miracles with my back using acupuncture [*granted , it's coming up on 6 months and is costing me a fortune since insurance does not cover it...] told me that the numbers are now not accurate, she mentioned that anyone who has C-19 but dies from say a heart attack, or falls down a flight of stairs and dies due to blunt trauma - both of those people are listed as C-19 deaths, even though the actual cause and manner of death was completely un related.

She also told me it's being treated wrong, she said it needs to be treated like high altitude sickness, which when I researched that further I saw she was right - hence why the ventilators don't work in 90% of the cases...

*on a side note, in 1994... we went up to 12,500 feet in a UH-60 L Blackhawk during the winter to trouble shoot freezing fuel selector valves [from the cold] or maybe if was freezing PAS levers, I forget...] and it might have been even closer to 15,000 feet - but it was the two pilots, me, and an engineer - and I remember we had a real serious briefing about going past 10,000 feet without oxygen, and if anyone felt funny or if any one felt that someone within the crew was not 100% the mission would be aborted..... because it's the same thing, your lungs can no longer absorb oxygen properly.... anyhow, we did it and I remember feeling as as white as a ghost, but we were able to figure out what was happening - there was a problem with minor condensation in the spiral wrapped cables to either the PAS levers or the fuel selector valves - I forget which - and that was what was causing the controls to freeze solid.

Regarding Russia, actually their numbers are spiking up now https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Regarding India - here's the thing, those people live in squalor and because of that I am willing to bet money that their immune systems are naturally cranked up to the max based on what they are exposed to day in and day out.... those people probably have 5 or 6 diseases happening at the same time which would make any American deathly sick with just one of them !!

N. Korea has very little contact with the outside world, which probably helps save them as well.

Either S. Korea or China, one of those places - if you got caught outside during periods of lock down, it was a mandatory fine of about $8,000 U.S.D and 1 year in jail, forced labor - good incentive to stay inside if you ask me !!


Also - China is used to these kinds of things, Japan too - those people wear masks all the time.

The people in that part of the world are also highly disciplined as if you disobey The Party, you die - simple as that - but yes, the numbers in the U.S. are now being fudged.


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Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: rex123] #6868561
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Its all about keeping control of how the election will play out in Nov. This shows the depth of the deep state to keep Trump from getting reelected. I am afraid we will see more things happen between now and Nov.


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Originally Posted by cbat
Its all about keeping control of how the election will play out in Nov. This shows the depth of the deep state to keep Trump from getting reelected. I am afraid we will see more things happen between now and Nov.



God, I hope not..... I actually got jury duty coming up in like 3 weeks, I tried to push it back 10 months like we were once allowed to, but I got denied.

CT is opening back up on the 20th or so I am being lead to believe, and I guess the courts are really backed up with cases so nobody's gonna get excused.
*I'll have to pick out a real good mask to wear, as I've got quite a few of them now !!


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Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: Rat Masterson] #6868596
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
I think we should just ask Trump, so far corruption at the highest level, media collusion, lying by Dems. a hoax, wire tapping, deep state. All this happened,it is now a fact. So Trump was telling the truth. MAGA


Trump telling the truth? In what universe has that ever happened?

Jarhead


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Re: WHY VIRUS RESULTS [Re: Jarhead620] #6868612
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Originally Posted by Jarhead620
Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
I think we should just ask Trump, so far corruption at the highest level, media collusion, lying by Dems. a hoax, wire tapping, deep state. All this happened,it is now a fact. So Trump was telling the truth. MAGA


Trump telling the truth? In what universe has that ever happened?

Jarhead


U act like a Troll??


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