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Exporting meat to CHINA during a shortage !! #6869219
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As U.S. meat workers fall sick and supplies dwindle, exports to China soar
Tom Polansek
ReutersMay 11, 2020, 1:21 AM EDT















Trump to order meat processing plants to stay open amid coronavirus:

CHICAGO (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump ordered meat processing plants to stay open to protect the nation's food supply even as workers got sick and died. Yet the plants have increasingly been exporting to China while U.S. consumers face shortages, a Reuters analysis of government data showed.
Trump, who is in an acrimonious public dispute with Beijing over its handling of the coronavirus outbreak, invoked the 1950 Defense Production Act on April 28 to keep plants open. Now he is facing criticism from some lawmakers, consumers and plant employees for putting workers at risk in part to help ensure China's meat supply.
"We know that over time exports are critically important. I think we need to focus on meeting domestic demand at this point," said Mike Naig, the agriculture secretary in the top U.S. pork-producing state of Iowa who supported Trump's order.
Processors including Smithfield Foods, owned by China's WH Group Ltd, Brazilian-owned JBS USA and Tyson Foods Inc temporarily closed about 20 U.S. meat plants as the virus infected thousands of employees, prompting meatpackers and grocers to warn of shortages. Some plants have resumed limited operations as workers afraid of getting sick stay home.

The disruptions mean consumers could see 30% less meat in supermarkets by the end of May, at prices 20% higher than last year, according to Will Sawyer, lead economist at agricultural lender CoBank.
While pork supplies tightened as the number of pigs slaughtered each day plunged by about 40% since mid-March, shipments of American pork to China more than quadrupled over the same period, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data. https://tmsnrt
Smithfield, which China's WH Group bought for $4.7 billion in 2013, was the biggest U.S. exporter to China from January to March, according to Panjiva, a division of S&P Global Market Intelligence. Smithfield shipped at least 13,680 tonnes by sea in March, Panjiva said, citing its most recent data.

Smithfield, the world's biggest pork processor, said in April that U.S. plant closures were pushing retailers "perilously close to the edge" on supplies.
The company is now retooling its namesake pork plant in Smithfield, Virginia, to supply fresh pork, bacon and ham to more U.S. consumers, according to a statement. The move is an about-face after the company reconfigured the plant last year to process hog carcasses for the Chinese market, employees, local officials and industry sources told Reuters.

The Virginia facility currently serves export markets like China and domestic customers, according to Smithfield. Most U.S. pork processors routinely export products to more than 40 international markets, company spokeswoman Keira Lombardo said.
The virus infected about 850 employees at another Smithfield pork plant in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Across the U.S. industry, about 5,000 infections and 20 deaths occurred, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
"That tragic outcome is all the worse when the food being processed is not going to our nation's families," said U.S. Representative Rosa DeLauro, a Democrat from Connecticut. "That is what the Defense Production Act is all about: protecting America's national interests, not China's."

Pork processor Fresh Mark resumed making bacon and ham for global customers at a Salem, Ohio, plant it shut in April over coronavirus cases.
"If we start having a shortage in America, I think it should stay here," said Bruce Fatherly, a maintenance worker at the plant and member of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union.
Fresh Mark said exports are a small part of its business.

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The supply concerns could not have been foreseen when Trump signed a deal in January to ease a trade war he started with Beijing two years earlier. China promised to increase purchases of U.S. farm goods by at least $12.5 billion in 2020 and $19.5 billion in 2021, over the 2017 level of $24 billion.

The White House declined to comment. The USDA and U.S. Trade Representative's office did not respond to requests for comment.
China increased its purchases because of its dire need for protein after a pig disease called African swine fever led to the death of half the country's herd over the past two years. Beijing lifted a nearly five-year ban on U.S. chicken imports in November and also waived retaliatory tariffs on meat shipments to help boost supplies.

Year-to-date, about 31% of U.S. pork has been exported, totaling about 838,000 tonnes, according to the U.S. Meat Export Federation. One-third of that volume went to China, accounting for more than 10% of total first-quarter production, the industry group said.
Carcasses, which include most of the pig, were the top product shipped to China in January and February, according to USDA. Loads also include feet and organs that many Americans do not eat.
Exports to China set a record for the period from January to March, and shipments to all destinations in March set a record for any month, according to USDA.

JBS, which produces pork, beef and chicken, told Reuters it reduced exports to focus on meeting U.S. demand during the pandemic. About 280 employees at a JBS beef plant in Greeley, Colorado, have been infected with the virus, and seven died, union officials said.
"I think we need to take care of our country and our needs first," said Kim Cordova, president of the local United Food and Commercial Workers International Union that represents plant employees.
Tyson Foods did not respond to requests for comment about exports.

Suppliers like Tyson have limited meat products for retailers because of plant closures. Kroger Co and Costco Wholesale Corp, meanwhile, restricted shoppers' meat purchases.
U.S. farmers, who struggled financially during the trade war with Beijing, say they still need importing countries, including China, to buy their pork. Prior the pandemic, they grappled with an oversupply of hogs.
"There's enough meat for all channels if we could get these plants back up and rolling," said Brian Duncan, a hog farmer and vice president of the Illinois Farm Bureau.


Unbelievable !!! That last sentence !! Because they don't have all the plants going , they can't met the demand in the United States. Yet, they can EXPORT that same meat to CHINA !! crazy

Re: Exporting meat to CHINA during a shortage !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6869233
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It’s OK we have a load from Nigeria meat coming in soon how stupid is that?


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Smithfield is owned by China, the hogs are also owned by China, their plant in Virginia processes 8,000 hogs a day and it all goes to China. We as a country allowed this to happen, what do we expect. Communists should not be allowed to own anything in this country.

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Originally Posted by Law Dog
It’s OK we have a load from Nigeria meat coming in soon how stupid is that?


I think it is actually Namibia. There is a huge difference between those two Countries; Nigeria is a corrupt, over populated filthy place, while Namibia is the most politically stable Country on the continent, clean and lightly populated.


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It will make you sick if you GOOGLE some company and see where the Home office is located. More out of the US than in !!! Toyota, Honda, Kia, Budweiser, (yes Brazil/belgium) . It goes on and on. Hey the American people know one thing it's for sale if you got the money!!!! Back In the 90's Japanese where buying up farm land left and right. Then their economy crashed and they went back home..

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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
It will make you sick if you GOOGLE some company and see where the Home office is located. More out of the US than in !!! Toyota, Honda, Kia, Budweiser, (yes Brazil/belgium) . It goes on and on. Hey the American people know one thing it's for sale if you got the money!!!! Back In the 90's Japanese where buying up farm land left and right. Then their economy crashed and they went back home..


I have nothing against anyone or any company buying into the US market as long as US persons or company’s can do the same in their countries with the same rules but you can’t do that in China if you want to set up shop there you pretty much have to surrender you company and it’s trade secrets over to Chinese control and in Japan foreigners can not own farm land so screw them

By the way Toyota and Honda are both Japanese companies and have been since before WW2 in fact both made Zeros for the war effort and KIA is Korean and always has been from the beginning

But didn’t know that’s about Budweiser

I just find it funny that you named 3 companies that are foreign companies and the act irate that they are headquartered overseas



�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.�
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Re: Exporting meat to CHINA during a shortage !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6869343
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How many jobs in the US do those evil foreign corporations provide ?

By the way, Anheuser-Busch has been headquartered in Belgium for 800 years. It's not like they moved.
They also have a N. Am headquarters in St. Louis, MO


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My thought also. Anheuser-Busch isn't a new thought , nor do their headquarters location demand concern, to me, at all.

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I heard there are a bunch of guys who have been exporting furs to CHINA for years!

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seems like for the safety of the world an executive order should be placed prohibiting the export of frozen or refrigerated products that come from plants with covid.

as the virus is not killed in the freezing process. if they want to it to be processed into spam and canned we could send that safe food to China.

you know since they have the virus completely beaten over there we wouldn't want to risk reinfecting any one with their virus


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Good read Canvasback2.

This should be the top story on every news media for the next month. The idea that we are taking care of the people that put us in this predicament is unbelievable.

Everyone needs to copy this link and send it to all their contacts.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ndle-exports-to-china-soar-idUSKBN22N0IN

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Originally Posted by walleye101
I heard there are a bunch of guys who have been exporting furs to CHINA for years!

AND, then after Chinese labor manufactured them cheaply and poorly, brought them back to the U.S. for people to buy cheaper stuff.

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hope it gives em the craps now that we have bought up all the t.p.









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Originally Posted by waggler
Originally Posted by Law Dog
It’s OK we have a load from Nigeria meat coming in soon how stupid is that?


I think it is actually Namibia. There is a huge difference between those two Countries; Nigeria is a corrupt, over populated filthy place, while Namibia is the most politically stable Country on the continent, clean and lightly populated.



Still imported meat not raised in the US do you think their standards are up to ours? Will it be cheaper or will the processors will just make a bigger profit selling it rather then buying US meat.


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American companies sold their meat processing plants to make a profit and now we are mad that the foreign owners want to take some of the meat for themselves? What is it about capitalism we don't understand?

Bryce

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Originally Posted by bblwi
American companies sold their meat processing plants to make a profit and now we are mad that the foreign owners want to take some of the meat for themselves? What is it about capitalism we don't understand?

Bryce

Sad but true. Can't blame the owners...and, we the US are housing and supporting the 20-50 million illegals that came to work the slaughter houses. Ain't no illegals in China!

Last edited by Gary Benson; 05/11/20 05:19 PM.

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White is right, its all business and guess what POTUS is a business man selling off America has been good business for years and it has not changed. Regulations are now being dropped by the wayside daily. Pollution of water air and land is a cheap way to do business it makes more money for the company and share holders. Business is bottom line, the dollars, not the environment, the worker wage or their health. Look at the latest stats of meat plant workers that are contracting the virus and dying. Last I saw Smithfield has had 18 employees die from covid. Just a fact of life for the corporation and there will be more of it. As far as who owns what in the U.S. I THINK the UK is the biggest owner of American business and properties as far as foreign stakeholders.

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Originally Posted by danvee
White is right, its all business and guess what POTUS is a business man selling off America has been good business for years and it has not changed. Regulations are now being dropped by the wayside daily. Pollution of water air and land is a cheap way to do business it makes more money for the company and share holders. Business is bottom line, the dollars, not the environment, the worker wage or their health. Look at the latest stats of meat plant workers that are contracting the virus and dying. Last I saw Smithfield has had 18 employees die from covid. Just a fact of life for the corporation and there will be more of it. As far as who owns what in the U.S. I THINK the UK is the biggest owner of American business and properties as far as foreign stakeholders.


Still spewing yr liberal BS TROLL?


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Originally Posted by bblwi
American companies sold their meat processing plants to make a profit and now we are mad that the foreign owners want to take some of the meat for themselves? What is it about capitalism we don't understand?

Bryce

The economic system in this country is NOT CAPITALISM. These huge corporations, banks, meat packers, etc. couldn't exist without frequent government subsidization and bailouts. The companies would collapse and have to start over again. We have some sort of bastardized socialist system.

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Communists should not own anything in the US, anyone that thinks they are about capitalism is not thinking clearly.

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