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Re: I got told at walmart [Re: lumberjack391] #6873240
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Since when has shooting yourself in the foot because your trick knee is acting up ever accomplished anything? Communism loves a collapsed economy.


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Re: I got told at walmart [Re: AntiGov] #6873253
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
So far I've avoided any store requiring a mask

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Re: I got told at walmart [Re: lumberjack391] #6873262
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Ran over the wifes lawn mower, so I had to go to the Farm and Fleet and pick up a new one. While checking out, the person in front at the check out was wearing a mask and had only a can of seafoam, the lady behind me also had on a mask and only had a small bottle of hand sanitizer. If those people wearing masks really thought there was a real danger, would they have risked their lives over a bottle of seafoam and a bottle of hand sanitizer? Or were they just so proud to be sheep they just had to go out in public?

Re: I got told at walmart [Re: lumberjack391] #6873266
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Re: I got told at walmart [Re: KeithC] #6873325
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by MJM
Mean while Sweden is on the down hill slope and did not shut down.


Sweden is sort of a weird case. The Swedes mostly followed their government's social distancing and PPE recommendations, which allowed the disease to spread, but not so fast that the Healthcare industry was overwhelmed. Swedes have a high degree of trust in their government and are quick to follow government guidelines. The Somalis and many other immigrants, living in Sweden, didn't follow the guidelines and most of them got sick very, very quickly.

A friend of mine, who taught and did research at IU, who now teaches at another university, shared a study from IU on Covid-19 with me today. In Indiana 2.8% of the population has or had Covid-19. Blacks and Hispanics were infected at a "disproportionately high rate", which the study strongly hinted was due to their failure to follow social distancing and PPE guidelines.

We should open up, but people should still follow suggestions to not get sick. IU estimates that 70% of the population needs to get Covid-19 to have herd immunity.

Keith


So, you are saying natural selection does work?


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Re: I got told at walmart [Re: lumberjack391] #6873354
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Next time tell em “My body my choice”

Re: I got told at walmart [Re: lumberjack391] #6875459
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My cousin and goddaughter, Brittany, who is a doctor at the Cleveland Clinic posted this link to an interview with Steven Gordon, MD, Chairman of Cleveland Clinic’s Department of Infectious Disease, and pulmonologist Raed Dweik, MD, Chairman of Cleveland Clinic’s Respiratory Institute, about the science around masks and why wearing them is important.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/...k-helps-fight-the-spread-of-coronavirus/

Keith

Re: I got told at walmart [Re: lumberjack391] #6875477
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Wasn't that long ago that a open carry firearm while wearing a mask caused all sorts of panic. Now, if you open carry and don't have a mask on, the panic is 10 fold.

Re: I got told at walmart [Re: lumberjack391] #6875483
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I've tried to cooperate, but some times I just forget. I've gotten dirty looks. I even went the wrong way down an aisle. Did the security cameras see me? Will I get a ticket? I wonder what they will do with the guy that walked backwards down the same aisle? He knew he was wrong! LOL!

Re: I got told at walmart [Re: KeithC] #6875496
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Originally Posted by KeithC
My cousin and goddaughter, Brittany, who is a doctor at the Cleveland Clinic posted this link to an interview with Steven Gordon, MD, Chairman of Cleveland Clinic’s Department of Infectious Disease, and pulmonologist Raed Dweik, MD, Chairman of Cleveland Clinic’s Respiratory Institute, about the science around masks and why wearing them is important.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/...k-helps-fight-the-spread-of-coronavirus/

Keith



perhaps.

but remember when this all first started...they ("experts") told us over and over that we didn't need masks. in fact (they said); that wearing masks could even make things WORSE for spreading the virus, because we are too stupid to wear them correctly, thus giving us a false sense of security, yada yada.

fast forward a couple weeks and it became MANDATORY to wear them while out and about.

why?

[I KNOW why...it's rhetorical.]

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Re: I got told at walmart [Re: lumberjack391] #6875592
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Covering your sneeze/cough with your hand or jacket is just as effectively as a surgical mask. With a mask, it still allows particles out the sides of the mask. So as long as your hands are free and you do what your trained as a a four year old to do. All the studies show that there's no evidence they do anything to prevent spreading or coming down with influenza either.

Plus you can clean your hands after a sneeze, with a mask, you'll need a new one or smell your own snot the rest of the day

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Re: I got told at walmart [Re: SNIPERBBB] #6875762
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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
Covering your sneeze/cough with your hand or jacket is just as effectively as a surgical mask. With a mask, it still allows particles out the sides of the mask. So as long as your hands are free and you do what your trained as a a four year old to do. All the studies show that there's no evidence they do anything to prevent spreading or coming down with influenza either.

Plus you can clean your hands after a sneeze, with a mask, you'll need a new one or smell your own snot the rest of the day


One big problem with people just using their hands is that people constantly touch things with their hands.

The studies I posted do show that masks help lessen the chance of spreading Covid-19 and other similar ailments.

Keith

Re: I got told at walmart [Re: lumberjack391] #6875878
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That's why you clean you hands and you clean your hands after picking up stuff someone else touched. it's common sense which is dieing at a much greater rate than even the worst panic pusher thought covid would kill. Take care of yourself first instead of relying on others to take care of yourself.

I'ts all panic pushing. Played golf with a lot of doctors and fellow hospital employees this weekend a nary a mask to be found. And the course is owned by an employee of the same hospital I work for. We even had our company golf league start last week. Again, no masks no masks to be found as we are all docs, nurses, manages, and other employees of the hospital.

Re: I got told at walmart [Re: lumberjack391] #6875898
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As the federal, state and local governments relax their regs or are ordered to relax their regs then the issue of how, when, etc. will fall on the businesses and the risks they are willing to take. With 70% of our economy service based that means that the companies need to have healthy and willing employees willing and able to work with people who have little real reason to enter the business if they don't feel that their safety is a key issue. Those firms that more quickly understand their customer concerns and issues will fair the best. The other thing is that we have not reached the point where money in the hands of consumers has reached their lower points and money available for non essential items will continue to drop for some time.

Bryce

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