Positive things about upstate NY.
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What are the good points about Upstate New York? I have read plenty of negative things. I'm somewhat familiar with NYC. But I will admit I don't know a lot about upstate. I understand that there are a lot of dairy farms up there. Please keep this nonpolitical, A trapperman from New York asked me about Virginia so I only think it fair that you Upstate New Yorkers tell me about your area. Thanks for your time.
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Everything compared to New York city
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Upstate Ny is absolutely the opposite of NYC. It is a beautiful place really.
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I went to a trapping class up there last year in The Adirondacks. The black flies were the only down side. Met a lot of great folks that work for the NY DEC.
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You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.
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On my property I can trap beaver, mink, rats, coons, fisher, bobcat, otter, and coyotes. No bag limit and some seasons last over 5 months. How is the bear and deer population?
Who is John Galt?
You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.
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I spent the first 53 years of my life in the Mohawk Valley area. That's about dead center in the middle of the state.
North and west of there expect snow in winter. A LOT if your in a snow belt area due to lake effect. Other parts of the state get less, some very little.
Deer and bear hunting can be very good. Furbearer population is healthy. Good duck and goose hunting. Some grouse and woodcock. Of course rabbits and squirrels.
Fishing covers all the bases, lake and stream. From muskies to brook trout. And lake Ontario and Erie.
Finger Lakes area is my favorite area. 200 wineries around the lakes, good hunting, fishing, and I will assume good trapping.
As Bigfoot mentioned, there is a BIG Italian population in the state. You might not get good breakfast sausage, but you can find some of the best Italian food in the country.
Downside: high taxes, bad politics (your probably use to that with Governor Black face). As mentioned, winter will be colder than Virginia.
The state also has several great hospitals.
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Many friends there, yes a sportsman paradise but it si always windy in the western Adks tug hill and north and west. Lots of wind mills and yes it does snow some. the locals pay a lot in taxes all for NYC so they say. You see more border patrols vehicles than regular state police and the local game wardens seem to want to help you. One did me a big favor in getting areas to trap for me and a buddy several years ago......jk
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I live at the edge of the Tug Hill in eastern Oswego County over 5hrs from NYC. I have access to almost 3000ac of private land to hunt and trap on right across the road from my house. I have shot 130, 140 and 150" bucks here. We average 340" of snow a year. Due to terrible politics the taxes are thru the roof and getting worse, with that, the locals can't/don't want to pay the taxes on the family woodlands and end up selling it to city people that think nothing of $1000-1500/ac for a swamp hole, driving our taxes even higher. Now mind you, I live 16mi from the nearest grocery store,where getting 36" of snow in an afternoon is not uncommon, not a lot going on for us to pay sky high taxes. I live on my grandparents old homestead, they/we have been here since the 30s, We bought it 20+yrs ago. It is a beautiful, quiet area that is slowly being ate up 5-10ac at a time. I am not sure how much longer we will be able to hold out, hoping at least until my boys graduate high school, then we will look for a place with lower taxes, more sportsman/working man friendly politics. Until we get driven out, my boys will learn the woods as I did. I have almost no competition to set traps on this whole area. Once people find out I'm trapping again the calls start about getting rid of beavers. Lots of furbearers, fisher, beavers, otters, rats, mink, coon, coyotes and foxes are everywhere. I have traveled to quite a few states, went to school in TN after graduation, hunt in MT, own land in ME, been all over the SE and NE and very few places have the overall outdoor opportunities we do here. Long seasons, no bag limits and lots of game. But the NYC driven politics make it hard for the working family. pictures-my oldest sons first turkey from youth weekend 4/25/20 on our land behind our house son shooting at our range behind our house...the turkey was taken about 75 yrds behind and to the right of the target 3 bucks I got 1994, 130" gross 10pt, 1995, 150" gross 8pt, 2015 140" gross 10pt. You could have heard the gun shots from my yard on all 3. The one from 2015 was about 100yds beyond where the turkey was shot. My boys and I with our 2 day check from this spring, we had about 12 traps out total.
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Great account of the many positives available in New York State.
We also have the best pacific salmon fishing in the Lower 48
along with Steelhead, Rainbow trout, Brown trout, brook trout.
The all tackle world record Silver (Coho) salmon was caught in Lake Ontario along with most of the IGFA Line class world records for Coho salmon as well.
We also have a world class trophy Walleye fishery on Lake Ontario, and some of the best Ice-fishing for World class trophy walleye in North America.
State fishery Biologists figure It's only a matter of time before
The next world record walleye is taken thru the ice on a frozen Lake Ontario Enbayment.
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Best thing it has going for it is its real close to Canada.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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