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Pointless points #6873454
05/15/20 07:06 PM
05/15/20 07:06 PM
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I have a whole bunch of Nosler partition bullets in 308 diameter 150 grain and want to load them for the 30-06 ... they have been packed in bulk and the spire point looks more like a dildo point, so I gots to thinking. A bit of bar stock a M10 bolt and a sleeve so that a ball bearing I had lallygagging around, doing no bearing at all was shanghaied into a new job. What I am doing here is probably completely unnecessary and way over the top but I like a spire point to be just that.  With the bearing set to the angle on the front part of the bullet, A spacers that lets me set the bullets with the same amount of stick out into the chuck and a DTI at the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) end of the cross slide for repeatability so that one point is the same as the next. 
A couple of pictures are probably more that a lot of splaining
Why am I doing this .... because I can. 
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Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6873476
05/15/20 07:37 PM
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I would like to see that little point you made after its stripped from a mag and ran up the feed ramp.


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Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6873492
05/15/20 08:02 PM
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or you could just load them for the 30-30 and have better than average BC with a flat point


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Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6873499
05/15/20 08:11 PM
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I don't think they would feed in the 30 30 and will it be fast enough for them to expand ?? Nosler Partitions are not the softest bullets around and need a bit of speed to expand properly
I have a bunch of bullets for the 30-30 but not that many that I can use for the 30-06 and the points look just fine after then are pushed into the chamber ...... You made me go and try it Possum Man I painted a bullet with a sharpie to see where the ramps would touch the bullet and its not till half way up to the ogive


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Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6873592
05/15/20 09:26 PM
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Good, with what you did then i would say you definitely improved the BC of those bullets. Im always afraid soft exposed lead tips get smashed on feed ramps.


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Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6873593
05/15/20 09:29 PM
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As soft as that point is, it flattens out on the front of your magazine under recoil.
I love that bullet and know this from experience.


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Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6873599
05/15/20 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
I don't think they would feed in the 30 30 and will it be fast enough for them to expand ?? Nosler Partitions are not the softest bullets around and need a bit of speed to expand properly
I have a bunch of bullets for the 30-30 but not that many that I can use for the 30-06 and the points look just fine after then are pushed into the chamber ...... You made me go and try it Possum Man I painted a bullet with a sharpie to see where the ramps would touch the bullet and its not till half way up to the ogive


Your right about partitions being hard, I won't use them for deer. Good on Elk and Bear tho.

Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6873606
05/15/20 09:35 PM
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Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6874977
05/17/20 02:28 PM
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Pushing them at 2smack on 3000 ft/sec I ended up with a decent for me group at 250 yards. Probably could have done better if I had skipped the caffein this morning . But that will do just fine for a hunting round in my book. Now I have 200 more to make up just like that and thats my SHR in 30-06 sorted for a while. On to the next project.

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Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6874987
05/17/20 02:43 PM
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that's a nice group at any distance especially 250 yards or meters (what ever you Euro Rednecks wanna call it LOL)


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Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6874998
05/17/20 02:59 PM
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My range finder was made this side of the pond and prefers yards and feet instead of celsius and kilos


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Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6875014
05/17/20 03:23 PM
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Yep nice group. I have shot deer with partitions out of my 270. They go all the way through even at distance. Hit the sweet spot they wont go far though. With that group if you miss the sweet spot dont blame your rifle or ammo lol.


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Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6875030
05/17/20 04:08 PM
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I'll then blame the wind or something like that wink
I think at that speed they should make a decent round for larger game as well. Even though they are only 150 grain they tend to penetrate well above their weight class if you know what I mean
I am averaging 3070 ft/sec with an SD of 6 and I'll take that using Hodgon Superformance powder.
Next up if I can find them is my Grendel with 90 or 100 grain pills . See if it likes them better than the 120's I can't seem to get them to go better than 1.5 MOA and thats just not good enough.


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Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6875049
05/17/20 04:37 PM
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I believe you over thought it, but so what. Partitions are made to ALWAYS have the back half of the bullet in tack. The front is designed to peel back.
For checking where the ogive hits the lands you can just use a match or candle to smoke the front of the bullet. Light tension on the case mouth to allow the bullet to slide back after touching the lands while chambering.
Measure OAL and seat accordingly to what you want.

Re: Pointless points [Re: Scuba1] #6875065
05/17/20 05:02 PM
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I have a slit case in every caliber that I load for and use a sharpie instead of the candle but yup thats how I figure the basics out . Will the pointed rounds shoot any more accurate that the others and will they have a better BC?? Well thats not going to keep me up at night . I am happy the way the end result turned out and had fun figuring it out and thats what counts for me.
I tend not to measure COAL and measure to the ogive instead to have more consistent results.

Last edited by Scuba1; 05/17/20 05:04 PM.

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