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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Scuba1] #6878622
05/21/20 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
I screwed a full choke into the loud end of my 870. Does that count ??

Hope so cause I put a extra full in my 1300


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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6878720
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When I retired last spring I wanted to fix up a 20ga turkey killer. I bought a Mossberg 500 Super Bantam. The spacer for in the stock was long enough for me to shoot, but I felt it wasnít quite long enough. So I decided to put a 12ga stock on it, it worked for the length but I couldnít see very well through the Burris FF III I had on it. It seemed I had to stretch my neck a little to see thru it right. I didnít like that at all sitting on a picatanny rail. Then I got wind of a Meadow Creek Mount that the Fastfire would Mount on the ventilated rib. I mounted it on the rib but still couldnít see thru it right. Then I decided to get a tactical stock for on it and that worked perfect. I can shoulder the gun and itís right there. Next I put an Indian Creek 555 choke tube on it. Then I got into the TSS hype. I got a box of Apex Tss 9 shot, Burgess Creek Tss 8 shot only because I was going to New York this year and thatís the only shot you can use there. Well we didnít go to New York because of this Covid 19 crap, my buddy chickened out. Well anyway I shot the 9 shot first and couldnít get a good enough pattern out to 40 yards. So I switched to the Tss 8 shot and man did I ever get a good pattern at 30 and 40 yards. Hereís some pics to prove it

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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6878729
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Nice pattern

Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6878737
05/21/20 09:00 PM
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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6878740
05/21/20 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Have tried a lot of different types of guns, optics, barrels and chokes over the years but now I plan to build what I want just to see where it goes. I have a Remington Versa Max now that I really like but the trigger pull is that of a cheap derringer at 7-8 pounds. I added a Carlson turkey tube to the VM that throws a very tight pattern but free hand itís tough to keep on target now with the heavy amount of trigger pull.

Just sent the trigger group to CO to get worked it sounds like they can take out the creep and cut the pounds of pull by 40-50% for $60. Briley makes a upgrade that could reduce it even more but itís a target upgrade not sure it can take the pounding of a 3.5 turkey load over time the cost is $275.00 but they use my trigger group to do it, not wild about that. Might look into a 2nd trigger group.

Now that it shoots like a rifle almost I need better sights for it I added a Tru-Glo rear site that works well but they could be bumped when moving from set up to set up. Thinking about having a gunsmith add a screw or two to fix that issue for peace of mind.

Eyeballed a turkey barrel 22 inch to replace my 28 inch I have now but thatís $450 alone and needs to be camo dipped to match the rest of the gun so that is a $500-$600 barrel upgrade Iím to cheap for that. I cannot cut down my 28 inch barrel Iíd lose the pro bore benefits of it then.

What have you guys done to your guns to make the turkey killers?




I bought a box of 3 inch BB copper plated for my 870 12 gauge that I purchased in 1979 for 200 dollars. Still working on my first box of shells for 18 dollars as I can only shoot one turkey a year. Kills everything I aim at though.

Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6878742
05/21/20 09:12 PM
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Hunted for a lot of years with an 835. That gun didn't owe me another bird it had been so good. But finally it went click instead of boom so I bought a gun I'd been eye balling..

Stoeger m3500 been good thus far. Just wanted the semi auto for no good reason..

But what I'm getting to. Ever play with a pistol grip on a turkey gun?
I never had but wanted to and bumped into one same camo and everything as gun for $10... This my 1sr season trying it. Pointing it feels a lot less natural but just hanging onto it at half or full ready is so much I guess more comfortable.. I'm still not 100% sold but a worthy consideration if you ask me..

Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6878776
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Remington 870 Youth Model...20ga...FFIII...Sumtoy Choke. Wouldnít trade it or sell it for any amount of money. Light and compact and throws one heck of a pattern out to 50 yards with 2.75Ē #9 TSS. It needs a Merriam for its Grand Slam.

Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: hippie] #6878970
05/22/20 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hippie
Bought a ten gauge.

I know, twelves will shoot as hard, but after buying a ten, my range increased 20yds I

(This was Fox hunting, but same principle)

I have an old Zabala double barrel 10 ga. 34" barrels both full choke.It reaches out and packs a punch.


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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6878985
05/22/20 06:45 AM
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I have a motto. "never tell somebody else which woman to love, which pickup to buy or what gun he should get"

Your shotgun sounds nice lawdog. I have an old h and r 12 gauge I bought at Gibsons in Salida Co. on my birthday. Told the sales clerk "see its my birthday today" She didnt do the math for the year. I didnt want to wait for my dad to come to town. I think it was 35 bucks. Its been a good gun and killed lots of stuff. Today I shoot an out of the box Mossburg 500. Like the old H and R its been fine. I dont know why but 870's won't hit what I'm pointing at. The mossburg will and the H and R will. So why fix what aint broke?


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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6879038
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28 gauge 2-3/4" 1-5/16oz tss9 at 40 yds full choke


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10 gauge h&r 2-1/4oz copper plated 4s full choke 40yds


these were shot at the same time from the same rest. i wouldnt use that 10gauge as a boat anchor let alone to wound a turkey. the 28 weighs less has less recoil and out preforms by a wide margin. i could fire both barrels and still not be kicked as hard.


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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6879042
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pointer phenoma 410 semiauto at 40 yds factory full choke 13/16oz tss 9


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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6879044
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winchester sx3 20gauge 40yds 1-7/16oz tss9
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benelli m2 20ga 40 yds 1-7/16oz tss9


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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6879053
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i dont even know what tss is. shoot that h and r with some lead #4 at 40. BTW that pellet in the red dot would have killed the bird.some of those others would have hit the spine if that red dot was its head.


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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: danny clifton] #6879072
05/22/20 08:46 AM
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Here's a picture of my turkey killer. It's a Stoeger M3500 26" barrel & I have a Pattern Master code black choke, I'm good to 65-70 yards. It also has a Tru-Glo red dot scope. I added the pistol grip stock.
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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: danny clifton] #6879077
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
i dont even know what tss is. shoot that h and r with some lead #4 at 40. BTW that pellet in the red dot would have killed the bird.some of those others would have hit the spine if that red dot was its head.

these birds deserve more respect that the hope that a pellet would hit vitals. there is to many holes in that 10 gauge to risk it and a wounded bird. that "pattern" is completely unacceptable for an ethical shot at that distance and ANY one who shoot turkeys with patterns like this dont deserve to ever hunt again.


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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6879129
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I know I donít really need the 3.5 turkey loads but I love to hear them go boom!


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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6879177
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sounds like you're on the way to a great gun Jerry
personally, i'd a just sent my gun of choice to Bansner, as someone mentioned
he's been in that biz for bout 30 yrs

I'm also in the "bigger is not better" ballpark

looking forward to seeing some awesome patterns


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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6879376
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I'm with you Law Dog. I like the 3.5 bang. I use 2 1/4 oz load, I like a lot of shot in the air. It hurts to shoot it but it gets the job done everytime.

Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: Law Dog] #6879408
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I archery hunt turkey, but when I started taking kids, first my own then, through a mentoring program. I started them all off with an 870 20 ga. Killed most birds with high brass 2 3/4 in 5 shot. No problem. I've since built a "mentor gun" from a Mossburg 510 in 410 I can adjust the stock to fit anyone. It kills just as well and with minimal kick. I actually decoy all of my birds in to 25 yards or less, so the 3.5" and copper plated and scopes is not needed.


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Re: Building a turkey gun. [Re: skippyturtle] #6879420
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Originally Posted by skippyturtle
Originally Posted by danny clifton
i dont even know what tss is. shoot that h and r with some lead #4 at 40. BTW that pellet in the red dot would have killed the bird.some of those others would have hit the spine if that red dot was its head.

these birds deserve more respect that the hope that a pellet would hit vitals. there is to many holes in that 10 gauge to risk it and a wounded bird. that "pattern" is completely unacceptable for an ethical shot at that distance and ANY one who shoot turkeys with patterns like this dont deserve to ever hunt again.

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