Re: Rogue Judges
[Re: James]
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I don't know how you could prove a judge intentionally violated the Constitution.
Constitutional questions can be rationalized every which way. The Constitution is susceptible to different interpretations.
Jim Jefferson referred to the Constitution as a living document, and went on to explain his thought process that included it could change for the good of the country or the benefit of the citizenry. This depends entirely upon whose opinion is well intentioned , or if they have an agenda to deprive other citizens of rights they hold dear. Politicians in general should not be EXPECTED to adequately protect the meaning and re-interpretation.
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Re: Rogue Judges
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Ask 10 judges to explain to you the "Right of Eminent Domain". Their answers will most often be aligned with whose pockets will be lined with the 10 pieces of silver, and who paid for his campaign.
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Re: Rogue Judges
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The rogue judge right now is the one presiding over the Michael Flynn case. After the prosecution decided they had no evidence and withdrew, the judge decided to keep it going by himself and HE is the jury, prosecuter, and judge. Could be interesting but will likely go away quietly and be swept under the rug by the MSM.
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Re: Rogue Judges
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If judges commit treason by intentionally violating the US Constitution, they should be legally tried and if convicted, executed.
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Re: Rogue Judges
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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Is the Constitution really open to interpretation? Of course it is. I don't find the Second Amendment as clear and unambiguous as you folks think. Why didn't the framers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights say: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Instead, they wrote: "A well-regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Seems to me that you're saying the two sentences mean the same thing. Jim
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Re: Rogue Judges
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Is the Constitution really open to interpretation? Of course it is. I don't find the Second Amendment as clear and unambiguous as you folks think. Why didn't the framers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights say: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Instead, they wrote: "A well-regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Seems to me that you're saying the two sentences mean the same thing. Jim Sounds pretty clear to me. They stated the reason the people’s right to bear shall not be infringed prior to. They could have easily said the people’s right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed because it maybe necessary for the state to protect itself from the federal government.
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Re: Rogue Judges
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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"...the people’s right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed because it maybe necessary for the state to protect itself from the federal government."
That's not what the Second says, though.
Maybe you should have been at the table when they were drafting it. lol
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Re: Rogue Judges
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That’s exactly what it says only the reason is noted prior to the right.
The only realistic thing to threaten a state’s freedom is the federal government.
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Re: Rogue Judges
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Seems to me the Civil War settled that issue.
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Re: Rogue Judges
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Then why didn’t the winner change the Constitution then? Because you're wrong. The use of "state" in the Second Amendment doesn't refer to the fifty states (or 13), but means nation. Jim
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Re: Rogue Judges
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"...the people’s right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed because it maybe necessary for the state to protect itself from the federal government."
That's not what the Second says, though.
Maybe you should have been at the table when they were drafting it. lol
Jim We may not have sat at the table but what we do have is their writings and the examples they set. Do you think men who risked everything they have, their families and their lives to birth a new nation whose ideals of liberty were unheard of at that time would entertain the thought it was okay to allow a government to take away the tools they used to deliver that birth? It's utter nonsense to believe so.
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Re: Rogue Judges
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Steven, where did I ever say that?
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Re: Rogue Judges
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Is the Constitution really open to interpretation? Of course it is. I don't find the Second Amendment as clear and unambiguous as you folks think. Why didn't the framers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights say: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Instead, they wrote: "A well-regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Seems to me that you're saying the two sentences mean the same thing. Jim because alot of them were doctors and lawyers, it takes them a paragraph to say a sentence. -- alot like paul in the bible.
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Re: Rogue Judges
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Then why didn’t the winner change the Constitution then? Because you're wrong. The use of "state" in the Second Amendment doesn't refer to the fifty states (or 13), but means nation. Jim Go figure, we need preachers to tell us what the Bible means and lawyers to tell us what the Constitution means...... And We have to pay both of them to do so. Yup, I’m certain that’s what the Founders intended. BTW, “You’re wrong”, indicates that the Constitution IS NOT open to interpretation. lol
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Re: Rogue Judges
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All I k n o w is I will never ask anybody for permission to be armed, to say what I think, to hold to my religious belief. So interpret away, pass laws, whatever you feel is right. Won't stop me from those things.
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Re: Rogue Judges
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"...the people’s right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed because it maybe necessary for the state to protect itself from the federal government."
That's not what the Second says, though.
Maybe you should have been at the table when they were drafting it. lol
Jim We may not have sat at the table but what we do have is their writings and the examples they set. Do you think men who risked everything they have, their families and their lives to birth a new nation whose ideals of liberty were unheard of at that time would entertain the thought it was okay to allow a government to take away the tools they used to deliver that birth? It's utter nonsense to believe so. The Anti-Federalists gave you the Bill of Rights because they feared a large central government. The Federalist believed in a strong central government but did not believe it necessary for the Bill of Rights to be included in the Constitution, since their thoughts were the same as what the tenth amendment states. If it is perceived, by lawyers and judges, that the words written in amendments don't mean what the words mean, can you imagine the heyday judges,lawyers, and politicians would have if they weren't in the Constitution. Be thankful the Anti Federalist won that argument.
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