What canoe? *UPDATED WITH PICS*
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**************** UPDATED ******************** Update: I got 2 of them. A 17ft alum Osage aluminum and a 158 Old Towne Discovery. I figured best of both worlds right? An hour away and an hour back. $300 each. I just moved to a house that has a good size creek close by, 50' wide or so. It was the main passage for the Miami Indians in my area back in the day. Where the treaty of Green Ville was signed if you know anything about history. As far as use? Me the kids will probably see what we can get into a few Saturdays. Maybe I'll hunt or trap some. Who knows. No real plan just didn't want to pass up a deal and now that my options are opened up and see what I can get into. **************** UPDATED ******************** So there’s a canoe fire sale tomorrow in Cinci. $200 - $400 first come first serve. Which one do I want? Alum, composite, old town discovery?
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Re: What canoe?
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Aluminum. I had an old Grumman when I was a teenager into my 20's. I bought it used from a rental place. It was indestructible. We used to go canoe camping all summer long and did things with it that would have ruined a fiberglass or wooden canoe. I've banged out dents and even riveted in patches. My nephew has it now. He welded up some holes it got from sitting on the ground for 10 years and he is still using it. Don't store it sitting on the ground and aluminum canoes will last forever.
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Re: What canoe?
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Don't get aluminum if you plan to hunt or fish out of the boat. Might as well bring a drum set along. Discos are very capable canoes, can haul a lot of gear, stable and handle most any conditions you'd want to be out in. And they don't echo like a gong if you hit the gunwhale with a paddle or drop something. That's my buddy's disco 169 on a 10 day trip on lake superiors north shore. I was impressed with how the disco fared. A lot of canoe for not much money.
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Re: What canoe?
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So there’s a canoe fire sale tomorrow in Cinci. $200 - $400 first come first serve. Which one do I want? Alum, composite, old town discovery? What do you want to do with it. For hunting or trapping I would get the longest widest. For tripping you might want the longest narrowest. Aluminum would be my last pick, too hot and to noisy.
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Don't get aluminum if you plan to hunt or fish out of the boat. Might as well bring a drum set along. Discos are very capable canoes, can haul a lot of gear, stable and handle most any conditions you'd want to be out in. And they don't echo like a gong if you hit the gunwhale with a paddle or drop something. That's my buddy's disco 169 on a 10 day trip on lake superiors north shore. I was impressed with how the disco fared. A lot of canoe for not much money. Have fished and hunted out of them my whole life with no problems.
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The obvious choice is one of each. It is impossible to have too many boats or canoes.
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If you're young and strong composite (heavy) is tough as nails. You can scrape them on rocks and keep on going. As others have said, aluminum canoes are called "boom alum" as they are noisy. Lightweight, yes, if you don't hit rocks with them they are great. Sharp rocks and underwater hazards can ruin your day on a floating trip.
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the discoveries are a little heavy but tough
been on some river trips with the discoveries and it was more like a half submerged log hopping trip , those discoveries held up very well color through and scratch but keep holding water out.
my neighbor went on a similar trip and his aluminum has a some permanent dents and bowed up bottom.
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The obvious choice is one of each. It is impossible to have too many boats or canoes. I believe this is the correct answer!
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Re: What canoe?
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What do you want to do with the canoe? What kind of water will it be on? Lakes or rivers?
If you're only going to be on lakes, aluminum, fiberglas, or Kevlar are the way to go. If you have trouble paddling a canoe straight from one side, aluminum will make it easier of the keel. The Coleman ABS canoe also has a keel--one of the things I don't like about the boat.
If you're on rivers or creeks, particularly ones with rocks, Royalex, ABS, and maybe the new materials they're using since the Royalex plant shut down.
In addition to the drawbacks to aluminum canoes already mentioned (hot in the sun, loud as a drum if you drop something), they all have a one- or two-inch keel for joining the two halves together. A keel makes it easier to paddle in a straight line, if you're a beginner and need help with your C- or J-stroke. But that keel will catch rocks and turn you over in moving water, where you'd just slide over the rock in a Royalex or ABS boat. And the keel makes the canoe less maneuverable.
Aluminum boats are fairly tough. They tend to bend more than break. I once saw an aluminum canoe, thwarts broken away from their rivets, wrapped halfway around a boulder. Sometimes you can kick the dents out. The other good thing about aluminum is that they're zero-maintenance.
If you can find a Mad River, We-no-nah, or Old Town made of Royalex or Kevlar at a good deal, grab it. If you find one of the new graphite canoes at a good price, buy it for me.
Buy a Mad River Explorer, if you want an all-round canoe that will carry a load. Old Town has a counterpart but I can't recall the model.
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Lakes and deadwaters for me.Have no reason to go on fast water.Im relaxing hunting ducks and geese and fishing.
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I would look for a Kevlar boat, if I were you. Lightest (except carbon fiber/graphite), nice sharp bowline, quiet.
Fiberglas is like Kevlar, only not as tough and heavier.
I wouldn't take an aluminum boat duck-hunting. Too shiny.
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I would look for a Kevlar boat, if I were you. Lightest (except carbon fiber/graphite), nice sharp bowline, quiet.
Fiberglas is like Kevlar, only not as tough and heavier.
I wouldn't take an aluminum boat duck-hunting. Too shiny.
Jim Got to use camo paint on the aluminum canoes to duck hunt with them.
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