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Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: seniortrap] #6879193
05/22/20 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by seniortrap
If a cop says"halt/stop", then don't runaway! Your hiding something.


sure looks that way when you don't submit to authority, THE WAY PARENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO TEACH THEIR KIDS.

Teach them that there is a system in place to right some wrongs in court.


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Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879195
05/22/20 11:02 AM
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The guy in the video has and shows no evidence for anything he says. Just what he thinks. The owner of the house says nothing has ever been taken from his site. Also several people a week stopped and went into the house and looked at it should they all have been shot? As far as jogging he is seen on camera going by several times in the day time .So unless he is the stupidest criminal in history why didn't he come back at night and steal every thing that wasn't nailed down.

Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879196
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Plus, Citizen Arrest is illegal/not allowed here in NC, and probably many states.
Holding a perp until LE arrives if fine of course.


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Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879198
05/22/20 11:06 AM
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a perp? is that like a burp?


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Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879201
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Where in this did a cop say stop or halt ?

Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879206
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Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Lugnut] #6879214
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Originally Posted by Cos
No idea, I wasn't there. If an unarmed man on foot was messing around my property under construction and I wound up shooting him, I screwed up real, real bad. End of story.


What if that unarmed man attacked you and attempted to take your weapon? Which is what happened in this case. Maybe you should gather a little basic information before commenting? Are you aware there is a video of the shooting?

So if someone comes at you with a gun are you just going to lay down and hope for the best or are you going to defend yourself? Id rather go out fighting than on my knees. Guess they are lucky he wasnt armed, like I am when I go out...even for a jog. I dont know of anyone down here whos going to lay down for someone just because they have a weapon.
Just my opinion, but all parties involved acted recklessly. The father and son clearly did not think it through. Impulse actions never work as planned.

Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879215
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Danny, All politically and money motivated. Around here none of the ticket revenue goes to the police department, but someone higher up pushes what the focus should be. Yes, generally someone in the food chain is getting either political or money gain...but those people aren't seen.

EG: Years ago nobody cared about DWI's. Then a big political push via funding...Now it's a huge thing. Same with Domestic Assaults (huge political and funded agenda). All pushed by an agenda to where the cop on the street has NO discretion if someone alleges any type of "Fear"...and arrest is mandatory, even if the cop know's its all B.S. (which most of them are in reality...motivated my revenge).

Rape is another one that has all the Political agenda "advocates" pushing. Talk to anyone who has worked sex crimes. Most are made up B.S. You have your: My husband caught me cheating "rape". Oh I'm pregnant with someone elses child "rape". I got drunk and now have buyers remorse "rape"...and the list goes on and on.

We had an "advocate" come in and tell us if you have sex with a woman who's been drinking at all, it's now RAPE. We said "how do you think most of us got here"?

Of course not to take away from the legitimate victims of either but it's greatly exploited, pushed, and innocent peoples lives are ruined because of it. These cases are pushed by certain special interest /funded groups.

Again these decisions are made way way up the food chain. And if things go wrong, who gets blamed? The poor slunk on the street driving a patrol car who usually disagrees with most of the "mandates".

AS they say.....Don't hate the player, hate the game.


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Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879217
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A cop passing the buck doing something he should not have done.

Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879222
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Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879228
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be[quote=Cos
No idea, I wasn't there. If an unarmed man on foot was messing around my property under construction and I wound up shooting him, I screwed up real, real bad. End of story.


What if that unarmed man attacked you and attempted to take your weapon? Which is what happened in this case. Maybe y
So if someone comes at you with a gun are you just going to lay down and hope for the best or are you going to defend yourself? Id rather go out fighting than on my knees. Guess they are lucky he wasnt armed, like I am when I go out...even for a jog. I dont know of anyone down here whos going to lay down for someone just because they have a weapon.
Just my opinion, but all parties involved acted recklessly. The father and son clearly did not think it through. Impulse actions never work as planned. [/quote]

I agree they all acted recklessly. Once you get in a close range tussle like that it's hard to judge actions as it's fight or flight for everyone involved. Hard to think clearly. Obviously the reckless part was running the guy down in the street like that. Stupid.

Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879235
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Nice tape but it has been proven he jogged in that area and several others in that town also they lived several houses away so they could not see him in the house besides the homeowner has stated and shown video of several people in the house looking around the house and has stated nothing was ever taken. Is he lying? Also the younger man that did the shooting was looking for him because he claims he was the one that stole his pistol from his unlocked truck . He may have been a crook but on that day he broke no law other than trespass like a lot of other people in that town had done and they weren't shot.

Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879236
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You would have to be just plain stupid or on something to go un- armed against someone with a gun.
If whats His name would have backed off he would be alive today and home with his family. Most of us would take that over being dead.


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Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879239
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The homeowner said nothing was taken AFTER receiving death threats .
I'm sure that had nothing to do with his statements tho .

Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879254
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Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879259
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A guy can talk very brave and talk about dying when there is no gun pointed at him and little chance of that ever happening. LOL

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Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Law Dog] #6879299
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
A guy can talk very brave and talk about dying when there is no gun pointed at him and little chance of that ever happening. LOL


I agree with that.It is easy to talk.

Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: danny clifton] #6879309
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
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Media still pushing the jogging story they make me sick!



I would like to know who, and what their motive is.



The motivation is to get votes for Biden. Biden said today that if you cannot tell the difference between him and Trump 'you ain't black'.


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Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879311
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From what was first reported the shooter in this case first stated that they attempted to arrest him because he looked like the description of someone that had committed several burglarys in the area not because he had committed a crime at the time

From my understanding of citizens arrest you have to catch the person in the act and even if you do you do not have the right to chase that person if they flee

I dont know about the rest of you but if a couple of yahoos roll up to me pointing guns in my direction I am probably going to comply to what they want even if I am armed, up to a point that is, if they are talking about what they are going to do to me ect I am going to fight back even if I am not armed because I will be figuring what do I have to loose

Considering I am always armed outside the house its going to get nasty real fast, I have been shot once and stabbed twice so I know what the cost of standing up to someone pointing a weapon at you is, but I am still here and I plan on being so for a long time to come

Frankly I think these two screwed up by the numbers because once they started chasing him they became the aggressors and even if he had just stood there till cops arrived I would bet one he would have been let go and two someone would have been arrested for assault with a deadly weapon and if it was me a false arrest suit would have been filed against them the best day

I dont know why he made a grab for a gun when he was unarmed and facing two guys but I would sure like to be able to hear the conversation that went on between them leading up to it, it would probably be more then interesting





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Re: Citizens Arrest. [Re: Boco] #6879320
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The defense attorney stated that the two suspects were yelling " You sure got a pretty mouth!" and " Squeal like a pig!" at Aubry.


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