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No covid from surfaces !! #6879070 05/22/20 08:43 AM 05/22/20 08:43 AM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,155 Ky J jbyrd63 OP trapper
jbyrd63 OP trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,155 Ky	Well about a month ago I was grilled over saying that covid couldn't survive on a hard surface for very long despite what the news was reporting.. I was asked where I got my Dr degree? Then was told that the "experts" knew more than anyone. WELL WELL I guess my sewer plant classes were correct after all when they told us ALL bacteria and viruses can't exist long on a hard "dry " surface. THE GREAT CDC announced yesterday that the covid bug is still present after 1-3 days on some pourous surfaces, but it is basically the residue and can not infect anyone. I refrained from saying live on surface as one gentleman will pounce saying viruses aren't alive. BUT the CDC press release says can't live. Seems all the wiping and disinfecting surfaces after they hadn't been used for days is a waste of time and money. Not to mention the exposure to all these chemicals to the workers will KILL people down the road. LOL

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879093 05/22/20 09:10 AM 05/22/20 09:10 AM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 579 Iowa B beeman trapper
beeman trapper B Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 579 Iowa	Do you have a link to this news release?

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879103 05/22/20 09:20 AM 05/22/20 09:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,485 central Haudenosaunee, the De... W white marlin trapper
white marlin trapper W Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,485 central Haudenosaunee, the De...	cdc website

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879110 05/22/20 09:24 AM 05/22/20 09:24 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,569 La Crosse, WI Macthediver trapper
Macthediver trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,569 La Crosse, WI	Originally Posted by jbyrd63 Well about a month ago I was grilled over saying that covid couldn't survive on a hard surface for very long despite what the news was reporting.. I was asked where I got my Dr degree? Then was told that the "experts" knew more than anyone. WELL WELL I guess my sewer plant classes were correct after all when they told us ALL bacteria and viruses can't exist long on a hard "dry " surface. THE GREAT CDC announced yesterday that the covid bug is still present after 1-3 days on some pourous surfaces, but it is basically the residue and can not infect anyone. I refrained from saying live on surface as one gentleman will pounce saying viruses aren't alive. BUT the CDC press release says can't live. Seems all the wiping and disinfecting surfaces after they hadn't been used for days is a waste of time and money. Not to mention the exposure to all these chemicals to the workers will KILL people down the road. LOL Yep and will make more work for you trying to sort all that disinfect back out the water..Don't be dumping that stuff in my river LOL! See they got the UV doing the hard surfaces in subways now in some places.. Interesting how slow we re-learn something that been around. Mac "Never Forget Which Way Is Up"

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879113 05/22/20 09:26 AM 05/22/20 09:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 17,740 Central Oregon AntiGov trapper
AntiGov trapper Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 17,740 Central Oregon	Yep , the " experts " keep changing the rules of the game ...............the sheeple keep up though , so no worries ........ Report a post club - Non member

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879126 05/22/20 09:41 AM 05/22/20 09:41 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 34,908 Central, SD Law Dog trapper
Law Dog trapper Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 34,908 Central, SD	I’m sure some nose picking joker touching a door handle right after that will still pass it on in some cases but yes it’s not what they thought it might of been just weeks ago. Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that! Jerry Herbst

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: white marlin] #6879135 05/22/20 09:59 AM 05/22/20 09:59 AM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 579 Iowa B beeman trapper
beeman trapper B Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 579 Iowa	Originally Posted by white marlin cdc website I have been all over CDC website and cannot find this information. Does anyone have the link from CDC?

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: beeman] #6879142 05/22/20 10:08 AM 05/22/20 10:08 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 34,908 Central, SD Law Dog trapper
Law Dog trapper Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 34,908 Central, SD	Originally Posted by beeman Originally Posted by white marlin cdc website I have been all over CDC website and cannot find this information. Does anyone have the link from CDC? It was on CBS evening news the other day try there maybe. Last edited by Law Dog; 05/22/20 10:30 AM. Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that! Jerry Herbst

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879155 05/22/20 10:21 AM 05/22/20 10:21 AM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,155 Ky J jbyrd63 OP trapper
jbyrd63 OP trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,155 Ky	Not a link but here is what was on fox last night

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879158 05/22/20 10:24 AM 05/22/20 10:24 AM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,155 Ky J jbyrd63 OP trapper
jbyrd63 OP trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,155 Ky	https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...s-or-animals-revised-cdc-website-states/ here is a link

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: beeman] #6879179 05/22/20 10:51 AM 05/22/20 10:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,485 central Haudenosaunee, the De... W white marlin trapper
white marlin trapper W Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,485 central Haudenosaunee, the De...	Originally Posted by beeman Do you have a link to this news release? https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html scroll down to: The virus does not spread easily in other ways note: it doesn't say NO covid from surfaces, but it does say it's not the main way it spreads. Last edited by white marlin; 05/22/20 10:55 AM.

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: AntiGov] #6879185 05/22/20 10:57 AM 05/22/20 10:57 AM
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,694 Nevadafornia L Lazarus trapper
Lazarus trapper L Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,694 Nevadafornia	Originally Posted by AntiGov Yep , the " experts " keep changing the rules of the game ...............the sheeple keep up though , so no worries ........ Aint that the truth. For every "expert" that says X about COVID, there is at least one expert who will say X is wrong and that Y is the truth. I can't keep up. One of the problems with the information age is that there is no filter; no safeguards about accuracy of information. EVERYONE is an expert. The guy doing the 6:00 o'clock weather is an expert on COVID for crying out loud. So I've just decided to go about my business as usual. Yes, I might be in complete denial but here I am, no mask, willing to shake hands with folks, breathing fresh air and living my life. I refuse to simply exist. Last edited by Lazarus; 05/22/20 10:57 AM.

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879186 05/22/20 10:58 AM 05/22/20 10:58 AM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 3,916 Pa A Art S trapper
Art S trapper A Joined: May 2011 Posts: 3,916 Pa

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879188 05/22/20 10:59 AM 05/22/20 10:59 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,485 central Haudenosaunee, the De... W white marlin trapper
white marlin trapper W Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,485 central Haudenosaunee, the De...	the way I look at, if you're afraid to go out and live your life, stay in and entomb yourself. the rest of us will be busy LIVING. Last edited by white marlin; 05/22/20 11:00 AM.

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879189 05/22/20 11:00 AM 05/22/20 11:00 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,962 South metro, MN C Calvin trapper
Calvin trapper C Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,962 South metro, MN	Well I know one thing, in a time when my co workers are usually hacking and sneezing from other ailments, almost nobody around is sick anymore. So one positive to all this anti bacterial stuff going on.

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879211 05/22/20 11:16 AM 05/22/20 11:16 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 11,198 Armpit, ak D Dirt trapper
Dirt trapper D Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 11,198 Armpit, ak	How many guys on here wear gloves when they are skinning? Who is John Galt?

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: Dirt] #6879213 05/22/20 11:20 AM 05/22/20 11:20 AM
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,694 Nevadafornia L Lazarus trapper
Lazarus trapper L Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,694 Nevadafornia	Originally Posted by Dirt How many guys on here wear gloves when they are skinning? I do. Keeps my hands cleaner, they don't smell like the south end of a north bound coyote all day, I don't have to dig crud out from under my fingernails for two days, I usually skin in the field and even latex gloves hold some heat in so they keep my hands a tad warmer, AND there are a bunch of nasty ailments carried around by critters that I don't want to catch, or take home to my pets.

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879225 05/22/20 11:34 AM 05/22/20 11:34 AM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,155 Ky J jbyrd63 OP trapper
jbyrd63 OP trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,155 Ky	Well the thing about using gloves is yes they protect you from getting things thru the skin, but they are just like your skin. If you get bacteria on the gloves then touch your face same affect. This glove deal in the public is a waste, unless you change them after everything you touch no purpose .The only difference is if you have a cut on your hands. No direct path to inside your body. With that said if you wear gloves then use hand sanitizer it will kill the bugs PLUS keep you from absorbing the chemicals into your skin...............

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: Calvin] #6879234 05/22/20 11:43 AM 05/22/20 11:43 AM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,155 Ky J jbyrd63 OP trapper
jbyrd63 OP trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,155 Ky	Originally Posted by Calvin Well I know one thing, in a time when my co workers are usually hacking and sneezing from other ailments, almost nobody around is sick anymore. So one positive to all this anti bacterial stuff going on. Calvin do you remember (if your old enough) when we didn't have hand sanitizer around our necks. No one was afraid to eat peanuts. Kids allergies didn't exist in every house hold. Because we have disinfected ourselves to the point we have no immune systems is why lots of people are sick. Yes a new bug like covid will flatten the population but run of the mill illnesses hardly ever took down whole communities. When I was in school 70-80's we never closed because of flu out breaks or hardly ever had kids out.

Re: No covid from surfaces !! [Re: jbyrd63] #6879240 05/22/20 11:51 AM 05/22/20 11:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,485 central Haudenosaunee, the De... W white marlin trapper
white marlin trapper W Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,485 central Haudenosaunee, the De...	Originally Posted by jbyrd63 When I was in school 70-80's we never closed because of flu out breaks or hardly ever had kids out. and, society as a whole took pride in toughing it out...we weren't ALLOWED to stay home from school, unless we were actively puking our guts out or were likely to crap our pants with diarrhea.

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