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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6879696
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Trump declared churches as essential.


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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: James] #6879697
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Originally Posted by James
Someone show me what gives Trump the authority. Jim


The CONSTITUTION is the authority for freedom of religion (you should read the First Amendment!)...he's just using it to reign in the rogue governors.

Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6879703
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Why don't you read me the part of the First Amendment that you say gives Trump the authority?

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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6879705
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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6879709
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bein a atheist and a cheeto man bad this must really hit home.









Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6879710
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Trump has the authority to direct his DOJ to take any state that violates the first amendment to court. He can't just say "governors ,do as I say", of course, but he can use his authority to fight for the first amendment.

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[white marlin]so, where was your civics lesson when governors overstepped their authority?
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You're good at changing the subject and trying to draw the suckers out into the weeds. lol

Jim[/quote]

just pointing out the massive inconsistencies of your "logic".

Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6879718
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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: James] #6879720
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Originally Posted by James
Why don't you read me the part of the First Amendment that you say gives Trump the authority? Jim


REALLY, Jim?????

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6879725
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Thank you, loosegoose. Good post, though I think Trump's using the JD to fight for churches may itself be a violation of the First Amendment. I expect the Supreme Court might just toss this one to the states.

Of course, the courts won't have the matter settled until after the election. Canny politics, actually. Cynical, though.

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I think the DOJ can fight for all religious institutions, as long as they don't single out any one religion and not fight for others. It seems perfectly reasonable that the DOJ could take to court any state that prevents a person from worshipping as they fit, whether or not theyd win is a different matter of course.

Personally I say worshipping your God as you see fit is a natural right that no one can take away no matter what, screw what the government says and do as you please.

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What if I see fit to yell "fire!" in a crowded theatre? Or slander somebody?

The First Amendment is not a guarantee of freedom of however you want to worship, no matter how dangerous it is to others.

The amendments to the Constitution aren't absolutes. What about the churches that want to ingest peyote? Jim Jones's church?


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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6879769
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Every state is different. The virus has impacted states differently. The impact is not uniform across the country.

That being the case, why shouldn't the question of whether to open churches and other places with crowds be a state issue?

What happened to states' rights, you Southerners?

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He is not a leader, he is a politician. Everything he does is to forward his mission and image. This he does very well.

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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6879780
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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: James] #6879781
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Originally Posted by James
The First Amendment is not a guarantee of freedom of however you want to worship, no matter how dangerous it is to others.

The amendments to the Constitution aren't absolutes. What about the churches that want to ingest peyote? Jim Jones's church? Jim


Native American tribes can ingest peyote for religious purposes.

cite ONE instance where the supreme court has upheld a prohibition of peaceable assembly, or the free exercise of mainstream religious freedom?

Jim Jones is a poor example (and you should know better)….the crime was committed at the end of the situation, and was NOT a part of the everyday "services".

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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: James] #6879784
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Originally Posted by James
Someone show me what gives Trump the authority.

Jim


He doesn’t really have the authority to tell governors what to do, but he does have the authority to turn the Justice department loose on the States for 1st amendments infringement. Also he’s not pandering for votes. Trump has the uncanny ability to read the pulse of America. Love him or hate him it’s undeniable. I think it’s manly do to the fact that he’s not a politician.


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