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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6880101
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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: loosegoose] #6880105
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Good for him. This is one of the things I like about him, the willingness to stand against the mainstream thought process. He doesn't actually have the power to force governors to reopen churches, but then again I'd argue that the governors never had the power to close them to begin with. So he should clarify and just declare all churches open and make clear his DOJ is willing and ready to do battle with any government goon who says otherwise.


I believe he does, as was noted on another thread, the Civil War settled that.


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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: adam m] #6880108
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Originally Posted by adam m
Loose goose, it's sad for sure.

Trapdog1, according to a couple of drs that are part of their state's covid team, say singing and chanting causes germs to travel further because of increased pressure. They say this because there was a church where the entire choir got covid.


lol


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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Vincenator] #6880127
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Originally Posted by Vincenator
SO you think dumpy trumpy cares about any church or it parishioners ? The man is just such a moral pillar of hypocrisy and you belive him?He did say he could grab them by the "kitty" He is just pandering for votes and you are dumb enough to follow him like a bunch of lemmings off a cliff. .I guess i'm wrong and he is such a great christian. Karma is going to be a .itch, when his maker comes a calling for him there will be a express ride to the underworld and his spot will be warming up for him.And NO it wont be a cold day in (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman).Wake up and smell the crap...Cant fix stupid frown


Who are we to judge a good Christian or a bad Christian, but sir, you have your theologies mixed up. Karma is a pantheistic belief = Hindus and Buddhists and others. We Christians don't believe in Karma. We believe in God. So judgment will come from the one who will judge us all = Christ.

You can read the POTUS's comments, and then read the news subtitles of what he says, and they two don't match up very often.
Bossman is correct. Trump didn't order anything. He once again stood against the hail of malice and took a barrage from all sides for the good of church go'ers.
Thank you to our President.

Can you imagine getting up each and every day, putting on a suit and tie (some wore golf shirts most days) and battling against all the powers that have been in a power position living high in D.C. for 6 solid decades? Using other people's $$ and the government resources to maintain the status quo.

I believe that some who really hate Trump, don't hate the man. You can't possibly hate someone that much and for that long. They hate a way of life he represents and that voted him in = us. They hate us. They have had a station in D.C. and many other places for 60 solid years, all was going according to plan, and BAM.... this guy (Trump) gets elected. By the gun toting, bible thumping deplorables = us!
They hate/despise our way of life. Because they are smarter than us.

Oh well.
I just smile that the man likes a good game of give and take, and most days defends the deplorable against the enlightened ones. Or the ones who would change society into their utopia = socialists (Marxists), or the Greens (climate changers) or... well it's a fairly long list built up over the last decades.

If he was a trapper, he'd be a top producer. They just can't make him quit.
He knows how to scout, pick good location, and set on sign = the press corp goofballs. They step on the pan every time.

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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Gary Benson] #6880133
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Would anyone here seriously fill in the oval beside Joe Biden's name on a ballot? No, nobody would admit it.


That is why the Dems want to "simplify" voting, with mail in ballots and such, so they can fill in the right ovals for you.

Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: James] #6880150
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Originally Posted by James
What if I see fit to yell "fire!" in a crowded theatre? Or slander somebody?

The First Amendment is not a guarantee of freedom of however you want to worship, no matter how dangerous it is to others.

The amendments to the Constitution aren't absolutes. What about the churches that want to ingest peyote? Jim Jones's church?


Jim

Really, did you actually go to law school? A crowded theater is private property and the owner can restrict your speech any which way he wants. The First amendment Limits the GOVERNMENTS ability to control your speech. Wouldn't it be great if lawyers were actually required to study the Constitution prior to receiving their shingle.

Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: walleye101] #6880155
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Would anyone here seriously fill in the oval beside Joe Biden's name on a ballot? No, nobody would admit it.


Dipstick Jimmy (James) has posted a few times that he will "Vote for any Democrat with a pulse" before he'd vote for Trump.


Eh...wot?

Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6880176
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Very well said Mr. June. He who has never sinned cast the first stone.


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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6880221
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This announcement by Trump to open up churches was just like most of his other announcements nothing more than a distraction to get the press off his back for something he said or did that made him look bad. I noticed he did not stay around to answer any questions at the press meeting.

The other day he was giving the governors the power to do as they pleased (he didnít want the responsibility) now he is telling the governors what to do. You canít have it both ways.

Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6880251
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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: beeman] #6880287
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Originally Posted by beeman
This announcement by Trump to open up churches was just like most of his other announcements nothing more than a distraction to get the press off his back for something he said or did that made him look bad. I noticed he did not stay around to answer any questions at the press meeting.

The other day he was giving the governors the power to do as they pleased (he didnít want the responsibility) now he is telling the governors what to do. You canít have it both ways.



Would you like to speak to the manager Karen?


Eh...wot?

Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Vincenator] #6880300
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Originally Posted by Vincenator
SO you think dumpy trumpy cares about any church or it parishioners ? The man is just such a moral pillar of hypocrisy and you belive him?He did say he could grab them by the "kitty" He is just pandering for votes and you are dumb enough to follow him like a bunch of lemmings off a cliff. .I guess i'm wrong and he is such a great christian. Karma is going to be a .itch, when his maker comes a calling for him there will be a express ride to the underworld and his spot will be warming up for him.And NO it wont be a cold day in (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman).Wake up and smell the crap...Cant fix stupid frown


TDS?

Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6880301
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Where was Trump the last 2 months when your rights were being violated? If I remember right he put out guidelines for shutting down?

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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Dirt] #6880318
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Where was Trump the last 2 months when your rights were being violated? If I remember right he put put guidelines for shutting down?

Yup. He should have supported keeping churches open from the beginning, but better late than never. I've at least gotta give him credit for making a good decision now, I hope he pushes hard to follow through with it.

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Trump didn't shut anything down , Governors did , and we let them .


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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: beeman] #6880321
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Originally Posted by beeman
This announcement by Trump to open up churches was just like most of his other announcements nothing more than a distraction to get the press off his back for something he said or did that made him look bad. I noticed he did not stay around to answer any questions at the press meeting.

The other day he was giving the governors the power to do as they pleased (he didnít want the responsibility) now he is telling the governors what to do. You canít have it both ways.



He's pretty much shown time and again he dosen't worry much what the press thinks.

Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6880323
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On March 15th the CDC recommended that States limit groups to les than 50 for 8 weeks. They also listed essential services and churches were not on the list.

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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Art S] #6880326
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Originally Posted by Art S
Trump didn't shut anything down , Governors did , and we let them .


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Re: POTUS Churchs [Re: Newt] #6880332
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Trump didn't shut churches down, of course. Governors did, and people for the.most part, including pastors, just shrugged their shoulders and went along with it. But Trump also didn't make a push again against it to keep them open, and he should have. He should have had the CDC declare churches essential and had the DOJ go after any government turd that tried to restrict that right from the beginning. .But, he is now at least, and that's good to see.

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I believe that churches should have been allowed to stay open. I don't think it was legal for the government to close them.

I also believe that the pastors should have decided to close them

The whole debate reminds me of the temptation of Christ by the devil. In the Book of Matthew:

"5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God."

I think failing to protect the members of your congregation from Covid-19 is tempting the Lord thy God.

I similarly think that it is not a sign of weakness or submission for the strong to protect the weak by doing what they can to prevent the spread of Covid-19. Choosing to wear a mask and maintaining social distancing does not mean you are a weak willed follower. It mainly means that you have a heart and care about protecting the weaker members of society, such as the elderly, the sick and the infants.

I believe the Christian God would want you to do what you can to protect others. He can see, hear and know you wherever you are.

Keith

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