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Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Miley] #6883324
05/27/20 10:37 AM
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Well, I don't know all of the circumstances here but I have a hard time understanding why the 4 officers did not put him into the back of the squad as soon as he was cuffed even though he was resisting. No human should have been treated the way he was in my opinion. The cause of death sure could have been something other than the knee on the neck but I'm pretty sure that the treatment he got was instrumental in his death. The liquid flowing from under the squad was where he peed himself I think.


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Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Miley] #6883329
05/27/20 10:41 AM
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Bet the mans neck was broke . Big cop all his weight on guys neck with his head turned sideways. Heck made my neck hurt just seeing video !!! PLUS I think the reason they were fired is look around. Most of them were just standing there flexing all buffed up on their steroids. Thick necked and posing like a gobbler puffed up in the field. Put him in cuffs or tase his butt. Man was wanted for forgery OR NO wait he fit the description of some one who did.......

Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: HayDay] #6883333
05/27/20 10:42 AM
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Wonder who the dude was on the news coverage, that brought the ammo up to the front lines and dumped it in the street. A grocery cart full of ally apples to chuck at the cops. Probably took a college class or two on problem solving in critical situations.

Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Miley] #6883346
05/27/20 11:01 AM
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I was wondering why they didn't just taze the guy?
Does anyone know why they detained the guy? I heard it was for trying to pass a counterfeit $20 bill.
The news said all 4 cops were fired.


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Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Boco] #6883348
05/27/20 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
The crook was on some kind of drug,you can hear the cops asking him what are you on.
The guy was moving his head around,I doubt both his carotids were occluded.And his airway was not cut off because he is talking.A knee on the neck is not something that normally leads to a fatality.
I dont see how they can say that the cop killed him when there hasn't been an autopsy yet.I bet the drugs killed him in conjunction with him struggling to resist arrest.
I bet he died from drug induced cardiac arrest.


That's called "Excited Delirium"...The cause of most in-custody deaths...Its textbook for this one as well.

Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: MnMan] #6883351
05/27/20 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MnMan
Well, I don't know all of the circumstances here but I have a hard time understanding why the 4 officers did not put him into the back of the squad as soon as he was cuffed even though he was resisting. No human should have been treated the way he was in my opinion. The cause of death sure could have been something other than the knee on the neck but I'm pretty sure that the treatment he got was instrumental in his death. The liquid flowing from under the squad was where he peed himself I think.


Even when cuffed, an agitated individual can do massive damage to a police car and seriously hurt themselves in the process. Many police cars have had their windows kicked out by people in handcuffs. Many drugged and insane people in handcuffs have smashed their heads and faces into the windows and bars in police cars cutting and bruising themselves badly and in a few cases killing themselves.

I watched a tiny, stoned, female college student, at the University of Dayton kick the window out of the window out of a police cruiser and then badly cut herself, trying to squirm out, feet first. She smashed her face up too.

Keith

Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Miley] #6883356
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Think about this.

5 lives ruined over a person suspected of passing a counterfeit $20 bill.

Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Miley] #6883359
05/27/20 11:36 AM
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Everything is about money.
Money is the root of evil ya know.
Almost all crime is tied to money in some way.Everything from poaching to prostitution.

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Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: beeman] #6883360
05/27/20 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by beeman
Think about this.
5 lives ruined over a person suspected of passing a counterfeit $20 bill.


Yea, they should have never stopped. When should they stop? Never would salve the problem, I am sure. Sometimes you earn what you get.


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Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: KeithC] #6883364
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by MnMan
Well, I don't know all of the circumstances here but I have a hard time understanding why the 4 officers did not put him into the back of the squad as soon as he was cuffed even though he was resisting. No human should have been treated the way he was in my opinion. The cause of death sure could have been something other than the knee on the neck but I'm pretty sure that the treatment he got was instrumental in his death. The liquid flowing from under the squad was where he peed himself I think.


Even when cuffed, an agitated individual can do massive damage to a police car and seriously hurt themselves in the process. Many police cars have had their windows kicked out by people in handcuffs. Many drugged and insane people in handcuffs have smashed their heads and faces into the windows and bars in police cars cutting and bruising themselves badly and in a few cases killing themselves.

I watched a tiny, stoned, female college student, at the University of Dayton kick the window out of the window out of a police cruiser and then badly cut herself, trying to squirm out, feet first. She smashed her face up too.

Keith


Well keith the difference is the perp hurt themselves. Let them have at it. But in this case the cops actions may have caused the death. In your example the perps action caused their injuries.

Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Boco] #6883365
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Boco, send some of that evil down my way. Running low on TP , and they won't barter some for these. [Linked Image]
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Miley] #6883371
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OK I just watched it again and the part that will hang the officers is after he stopped moving and what appears to have peed himself the cop didn't remove his knee for over 6 or more minutes. Didn't really show when it was removed Plenty of time to choke someone to death. For those of you who are saying he could breathe because he was talking find a clip that shows the entire video. It last for about 20 minutes .!!!!! That is unreal. Hate to side with a would be felon but the man stopped moving and was obviously unconscious but the office just pressed on his neck with his hands in his pockets like he was waiting in line at cracker barrel !!! How hard was he to subdue if they done it while their hands were in their POCKETS... Unless they are robo cop or maybe Chuck Norris's cousin.

Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Miley] #6883403
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Gotta remember it’s not just a black thing. It’s a you against us thing. Could of been you ,your kin or friends having a bad day. If you think you can just tell the cop, no wait I’m a good guy . I have a job ,go to church love my family. Don’t matter at the time.

Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: jbyrd63] #6883409
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Originally Posted by MnMan
Well, I don't know all of the circumstances here but I have a hard time understanding why the 4 officers did not put him into the back of the squad as soon as he was cuffed even though he was resisting. No human should have been treated the way he was in my opinion. The cause of death sure could have been something other than the knee on the neck but I'm pretty sure that the treatment he got was instrumental in his death. The liquid flowing from under the squad was where he peed himself I think.


Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by KeithC
Even when cuffed, an agitated individual can do massive damage to a police car and seriously hurt themselves in the process. Many police cars have had their windows kicked out by people in handcuffs. Many drugged and insane people in handcuffs have smashed their heads and faces into the windows and bars in police cars cutting and bruising themselves badly and in a few cases killing themselves.

I watched a tiny, stoned, female college student, at the University of Dayton kick the window out of the window out of a police cruiser and then badly cut herself, trying to squirm out, feet first. She smashed her face up too.

Keith


Well keith the difference is the perp hurt themselves. Let them have at it. But in this case the cops actions may have caused the death. In your example the perps action caused their injuries.


I was very, very obviously answering MnMan's question about why they didn't just put the man in the back of the squad and very, very obviously not saying anything about the police officer's other actions.

Keith

Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Boco] #6883414
05/27/20 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
The crook was on some kind of drug,you can hear the cops asking him what are you on.
The guy was moving his head around,I doubt both his carotids were occluded.And his airway was not cut off because he is talking.A knee on the neck is not something that normally leads to a fatality.
I dont see how they can say that the cop killed him when there hasn't been an autopsy yet.I bet the drugs killed him in conjunction with him struggling to resist arrest.
I bet he died from drug induced cardiac arrest.



The medical terms are Laryngospasm and Tracheitis, in either case the reality is if anyone has trauma to their throat, it will swell in time, cut off the air, and the person suffocates. The neck vertebrae does not need to be broken, only the cartilage. Old episode of Quincy ME, focused on an old bum, who in a drunk came at a young guy, who shoved him back. Happened to hit the throat and broke the cartilage and the guy choked out about 10 minutes later as his throat swelled shut. The fact is, if anyone over 40 is throat punched, chances are they will choke out and die, as the area becomes very non pliable with age.

These were not 4 protect and serve officers, these were enforcement thugs, taught on the foreign system of police intimidation where the public is the enemy. This was introduced from Tel Aviv back in the 1980's, as the Jews beat up their citizens as a habit to keep order. It is why Tel Aviv imported so many Russian Jews as they had zero problem beating up settlers.
This was not 5 lives ruined. This was a suspected petty thief, murdered by 4 enforcers who should never have been hired. They were fired immediately, compared to the Somali who murdered Justine Damon in her driveway wearing a bathrobe, who almost shot the white officer sitting beside him too.

Some states hire problem people, Minnesota is one such case and these four thugs were together because they got off on intimidating people. This Coronavirus plague has proved one thing, and that is Americans are pretty good at policing themselves and do not need millions of federal, state and city cops costing billions of dollars.

Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Miley] #6883418
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What did the guy do to get himself held down like that?

Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: hippie] #6883432
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Originally Posted by hippie
What did the guy do to get himself held down like that?


Since none of the liberal media outlets shows the first part of any of the videos, including the fixed cameras, that are always running, I strongly suspect he fought the police like a lunatic.

Keith

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In a couple days the forging theiving crack head will miraculously turn out to be a religious upstanding preacher,community leader,family man loved by all, man of God,stomped down in the street by racist nazi facists.

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Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Boco] #6883441
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Originally Posted by Boco
In a couple days the forging theiving crack head will miraculously turn out to be a religious upstanding preacher,community leader,family man loved by all, man of God,stomped down in the street by racist nazi facists.


They'll show pictures of him dressed up for high school graduation and if he didn't graduate high school, grade school graduation.

Keith

Re: Minneapolis cops fired [Re: Miley] #6883443
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Yep and the sheeple will believe that narrative.
Then a couple community organizers will incite the sheeple to riot,burn down their own community and get millions to rebuild for "reparations",and an apology to them.
And Don Lemon will keep it going nationally.

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