Poor decisions result in people dying all the time.

I couldn't agree more. A cop has to do what ever it takes to subdo a belligerent bad guy.

Re read my post. I said AFTER the bad guy is cuffed.

Handcuffs only hold your hands together. Everything else still works.
Back in the day before meth and other great drugs were discovered, and folks respected LEO, things went much better. Now, folks are arseholes and that makes the cops bad guys?

Still ok with it. Unless the perp isn't resisting any more. Then it is time to ease up, some. Remember this person put their self in this position. You don't end up with a cops knee on your neck for jay walking. I suppose there is that < 1% chance but I doubt we are talking about that.

This does not sound like one of those no knocks that were at the wrong house.

I tend to believe that the cops do what they believe is necessary at the time. I highly doubt that any of them want to kill anyone.

Did you see the video?Cop kept his knee on the guys neck for at least four minutes AFTER the guy was unconscious.Im sure he did something to get into that mess,,but if a cop cant tell when someone is TOAST,,hes in the wrong line of work.

X2 the knee goes across the top of the shoulder, never on the neck.

Nope, didn't see it. I thought it was a open question and not one asked about one event. I am not a cop. Are you? I bet that those four minutes were about ten seconds for the cop. Everybody can look back at it and say what they would have done but they were not the one there at the time.

Let's just say that the cop took his knee off of the perp after her was cuffed. But the cop that put the cuffs on put them on a little loose since he was worried about getting in trouble for putting them on too tight. Now the guy jumps up, slips out of the cuffs and gets into it with one of the cops. Some how he manages to grab his gun and shoots one of the officers. Would that make you feel better?

wow

Did they ever say why he was being detained/arrested?

Hahaha,,I see.Instead of watching the actual evidence,,,youd rather make up a fantastical story.HahahaaaaMaybe you should go write a fantasy book.

It was for passing a phony $20.00 bill.

This thread was started as open question about how police react. Some have decided to focus on one case that has happened. Good job avoiding the questions by the way. I will say that I agree with you most of the time, but cop bashing, not so much. I was not talking about this case, tho it looks like I will have to look into it.

Maybe you can start a thread about people who make bad decision and why they shouldn't die.

Was not his first murder

Not a bad check that really wasnt bad

For J Staton: People will often say stuff to delay going to jail or getting a chance to get away. Handcuffs are too tight, pregnant, suicidal, parents are on their deathbed, kids home alone, etc. Every claim warrants some type of deeper investigation because it's always better safe than sorry.

Speaking only for my state, the training is to stay away from striking, kneeling, restricting, etc. Anywhere that isn't a large muscle group unless deadly force us justified. Kneeling on his neck is incredibly poor training. I would assume he wasn't trained that way but he never got much continuing training on MARC which like a lot of things is a perishable skill.

It's also written in many state laws and included by some instructors that if somebody can speak or breathe it's not considered strangulation. A civil suit can play out differently in that interpretation. The officer's knee should've gone on the guy's shoulder, offset to one side or the other. It also creates a very comfortable and stable position to wait/react in while he's held down while minimizing risk of injury to either party.

Doesn’t seem like that big a deal to get into a fight with the police over.

Thank you SleekOtter. Just wondered if officer's become "deaf" to statements they hear often. Y'all got a tough job.

For every action there is a reaction or consequence

100 percent correct. Striking/squeezing/pressure on the neck is considered lethal force ever since I've been around. I'm not playing devil's advocate because I wasn't there, but a knee on the neck like that is a huge mistake. And if somebody says they cant breath, (believable or not) you better (and usually required) to call paramedics even if not requested by the suspect.

Fixed it for you, Huntall76.

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