Re: Minneapolis cops fired
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05/28/20 01:14 PM
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So, what I can't understand is: In a group of four dispatched officers, there is not one smart compassionate person to recognize what was happening
Oh they know, alright they are just too afraid to say something. Afraid, if they make an issue out of this, they'll catch heck from their comrads & probably their CO. But also too dumb to realize by not saying something in a situation like this, they'll likely loose their job and have their career ruined. In short, its a good old boys club! for probably 80% of cops. Now, I'm not a cop so to make a statement like that is pretty brazen not? Well, if it weren't so, how come cops everywhere are not coming unglued and disgusted about this kind of behavior and making public statements against it?? Cops always say how tough their job is, and I'm sure it is. But when crap like this happens, I do know, it will absolutely make their jobs another notch tougher going forward. Sitting back and saying nothing against it doesn't help either. It's just plain weak.
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
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05/28/20 01:17 PM
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Someone on here said he was held down by four 300# cops. I don't see a cop that would weigh over 160# in that group. The perp could have worked for 2 hours and earned a real $20 and this would have been avoided. And acting like this at age 46, I wonder what the last 30 yrs look like on his rap sheet? These cops have likely had many many many run-ins with this guy. A person can legally curse a cop, follow them around yapping at them, harassing them, everything that isn't illegal and the cops can't do a thing about it. I'm sure it gets old, and cops have emotions just like the rest of us. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
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05/28/20 01:20 PM
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I just watched the posted video of the arrest and it looks to me the cops had trouble getting him to step out of the car and had to pull him out. The second officer went and helped, looks like at one point the suspect tries to fall or kneel down and repeatedly tries to turn towards the officer. Yes everything looks fairly calm after they sit him down and then when they walk him across the street, You see him fall but there doesn't appear to be any action by any party that causes the fall by the cruiser. Something happens that we haven't been shown when the videos switch to the cell phone videos. The officers never looked upset just doing their jobs in the first video.
The million dollar question is what changed and what happened. The perp also knows he's being videoed by 30 different phones. Good time to put on a good show and really shine.
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
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05/28/20 01:52 PM
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That cop doing the kneeling might as well have attached a Death Ray
to the victim's neck and finished him off.
The results would have been the same.
Have you ever tried to breathe laying on your chest arms handcuffed behind your back with your body weight compressionally restricting the expansion of your lungs ?
It's almost impossible to expand your lungs in that position.
Now add the Cop's knee to your neck, and his body weight.
It's a miracle the Victim remained conscious as long as he did under those circumstances, before being completely choked out.
I'm generally supportive of law enforcement but somebody should have been in charge, and told that cop to ease up, checked the guy's pulse, and realized that they had completely incapacitated the victim and he was no longer a threat, (if he ever was one).
I see a homicide of an incapacitated, helpless victim.
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
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05/28/20 02:30 PM
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The real criminals are the ones that burned business down and destroyed property in their rioting.
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
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05/28/20 02:36 PM
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What I don't understand is why residents of Chicago don't get their pantys in a knot over the shooting arcade going on there for quite some time. I'm confused here, is there a correlation? P.S, St. Louis and Kansas City in Missouri have more shooting than Chicago. I do agree with your take on businesses in those neighborhoods. This is a crazy thread, good to see not everyone posting is blaming it on the guy in handcuffs. rvsask, you are wrong about St. Louis and KC Mo. they aren't even close to Chicago. East St. Louis across the river is a different matter, no one in their right mind would go there. The residents doing the shooting and dying in Chicago are mainly black on black and the summer shooting season is just getting started. This Memorial Day weekend saw 10 killed and 42 wounded. www.heyjackass.com
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
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05/28/20 04:14 PM
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K52 that is my point. I know most big cities are a war zone of black on black violence. Last weekend was a slow one in Chicago compared to the past. My point is that the media and local residents must consider this exceptable behavior. Don't see the animals rioting,burning,and looting because of black on black violence. It would seem to me that it takes a cracker in a position of authority,mistreating a brother,too flip the switch of mayhem. Not saying the cops involved in this case couldn't of handled it a little differently,but I wasn't there. When the toxicology test comes back,it should nail down the true cause of death. If it comes back what the cops did wasn't the cause of death,Minneapolis will have a exciting barbecue party that will not be to the benift of business owners. The real criminals are the ones that burned business down and destroyed property in their rioting. Couldn’t agree more
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
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That cop doing the kneeling might as well have attached a Death Ray
to the victim's neck and finished him off.
The results would have been the same.
Have you ever tried to breathe laying on your chest arms handcuffed behind your back with your body weight compressionally restricting the expansion of your lungs ?
It's almost impossible to expand your lungs in that position.
Now add the Cop's knee to your neck, and his body weight.
It's a miracle the Victim remained conscious as long as he did under those circumstances, before being completely choked out.
I'm generally supportive of law enforcement but somebody should have been in charge, and told that cop to ease up, checked the guy's pulse, and realized that they had completely incapacitated the victim and he was no longer a threat, (if he ever was one).
I see a homicide of an incapacitated, helpless victim.
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In the video I saw the ambulance emt did check his pulse and the told the cop something and he just posed more. WHO unless they are saying "look at me" doesn't even look down at the suspect . He looked over at the bumper to put his hand on it so he could apply more pressure .Then scowerd to the people on the sidewalk.
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
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05/28/20 06:07 PM
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Minneapolis only gets half a winter, it's why people are so crazy there.
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
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05/28/20 06:23 PM
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
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05/28/20 06:47 PM
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Someone on here said he was held down by four 300# cops. I don't see a cop that would weigh over 160# in that group. The perp could have worked for 2 hours and earned a real $20 and this would have been avoided. And acting like this at age 46, I wonder what the last 30 yrs look like on his rap sheet? These cops have likely had many many many run-ins with this guy. A person can legally curse a cop, follow them around yapping at them, harassing them, everything that isn't illegal and the cops can't do a thing about it. I'm sure it gets old, and cops have emotions just like the rest of us. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The "play stupid games win stupid prizes" statement would get a LEO relieved of duty in my county. My goodness that is the most unprofessional statement to be uttered by a police officer. Being or becoming a police officer is not nor should be considered a game. I predict after investigation the officer will be charged with manslaughter and lessor charges to the other officers, as the video appears to indicate to me.
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Re: Minneapolis cops fired
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05/28/20 06:55 PM
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I wonder if he would be dead right now if he had simply complied with the officers requests?
He would would still be alive if he complied......... but you won't here the 'protesters' even admit that.
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