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Scope mount issue. #6886728
05/31/20 05:52 PM
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Have Model 7 - .223 , shoots low, ran out adjustments 3.5 x 10 scope. Changed scope n rings, 3 x 9 scope, centered adjustments , same deal, too low, run out of adjustment, up. Should I shim rear of 1 pcs. Base to fix this issue. Never had a problem like this before, welcome all help. Also tried different ammo, same result.


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Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6886737
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Is the scope a leupold??? For whatever reason they have made some scopes with limited adjustments. I got rid of one for just that reason after messing around for hrs. & hrs.

Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6886761
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Yes, raise ...shim...the back 1

Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6886772
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Yes, leupold scopes, both have worked well on other rifles.


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Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6886832
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I had that problem and went with the Burris Signature Zee rings. They have a synthetic pivoting insert. You can get offset inserts to raise the back and lower the front.

Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6886990
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Make sure you have the right bases. And second on the Burris Z ring with inserts negative in front positive in back. They are the only way I will “shim” a scope mount. Putting a piece of metal under the base is throwing the rings out of alignment and torques the scope where as the inserts in the Z rings are able to swivel thus eliminating torque.


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Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6887004
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Do you have a 2 piece base?
Could be they are backwards
Ive seen that a time or two.

Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6887030
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Another possibility is some lowlife stripped a screw on one of the rings and swapped a low for a medium then took the miss matched pair back for a refund, seen it happen.


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Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6887036
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And not to belabor the point but the model seven uses different bases than the seven hundred. Just saying.


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Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6887045
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Can you switch the front ring for the back ring? It may be one ring is a littler taller than the other.


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Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6887105
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I got this gun at a estate auction, had a 1 pcs. Mount on it, rings And scopes r mine. Might see about the Burris set up, I think I have them on another Model 7. First time I ever had this kinda problem.


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Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6887119
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you might try a EGW 20moa base it will get you more elevation adjustment

it also doesn't have to be the rings if you have tried 2 pair it could be the base


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Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6887133
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Seems like a 20moa base and decent rings should solve the problems like others have said. I would start with new bases. Sounds like something aint right with the current mounting config and not the scope.


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Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6887527
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20MOA base on backwards? Not possible on a 700, don't know about a Model 7. I have never handled one.

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Originally Posted by cmcf
And not to belabor the point but the model seven uses different bases than the seven hundred. Just saying.


This is my guess.
Get yourself a set of bases and I'm guessing you'll be good to go.

Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: Paul D. Heppner] #6887627
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Originally Posted by Paul D. Heppner
20MOA base on backwards? Not possible on a 700, don't know about a Model 7. I have never handled one.


rear holes are close together and front holes are spaced farther , you could get 2 screws in with it backwards but not 4.


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Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6887637
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There is a shim that will good under the mounts or base. Not sure why it is just with the model 7, but it has to be there. I spent 2 weeks doing the same thing you are and find it out. Put it in and was sighted in with 3 shots.


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Re: Scope mount issue. [Re: coalminer] #6887739
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I suspect you have a base issue or unmatched rings.

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