I showed a video at the snaring school last Jan of a big coon walking right through a 3/32 7x7 standard load, 7 inch loop, 7 off the ground. I like to set a 5-6 loop 6 to 7 off ground, 5/64 or 3/32 1x19 and I still get seat belts.I have videos that if a coon is in an area where it is crawling over stuff, it is more likely to try to crawl over the bottom of the loop rather than push through

Let's see the video. There has to be more to the story. What was the support wire? Where was the lock in respect to the loop (top, side, bottom?) What lock? What is a "big coon"? What's a "standard load"? There's no way a 3X coon is stepping up through a 7" loop, 7" off the ground with a good solid support and not getting caught unless there were some awfully extreme missteps by the trapper, no way.

LOL The lock was sterling and was set at 10 o'clock on a fox scent post. with a 14ga inverted s support off a sapling. the standard load is what you perfect circle boys use that is a swing-out fire, not a downward fire. And if you want to see the video, you will have to come to the next South Jersey Trapping and Snaring school to see it and learn some different stuff. And I didn't say a 3 x I said a big coon which in our area 1 or 2 x.

Thanks! Exactly what I thought you'd reply. Too bad you guys are stuck on that wimpy support wire lol. 10 o'clock is pretty far over too, 11 is a lot better IMO. No need to neck snare them dinky 1x coons, they aren't worth the cost of the snare.

lol

"IF" I ever cought a XXXXL . I'd make a pack animal out of it.

Around here a XXXL .Is one you tie on the hood of your truck and drive around with it all day.

That is why it's easier for me to neck snare coons. Some of our XXL coon are early born young of the year.

My Double loaded cable is set on 11 or 1, on both 7x7 and 1x19. The double load helps the loop stay open with wind and brush bys which is a must with all the deer we have. Our average good size coon will go through 4-inch hole in the roof on most of my jobs. 15 to 18 pounds. Our coon has a front leg length from pad to leg pit of 7 to 9 inches.

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Thanks! wink Exactly what I thought you'd reply. Too bad you guys are stuck on that wimpy support wire lol. 10 o'clock is pretty far over too, 11 is a lot better IMO. No need to neck snare them dinky 1x coons, they aren't worth the cost of the snare. laugh


I'm getting too old to bend 9ga. wire

Don't need to bend 9 wire much, Newt. Go raid a tobacco farm or tomato farm for the stakes and make you a bunch of quick supports. Put whammies or tubing on the snares.

Newt you and me both are too old and stubborn to change anything we do snaring wise. lol Hopefully some young guys will see there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Before I carry all that stuff. I'll QUIT snaring.Most of my snaring is done in or around Salt Marshes. Walking is the only way to get there.

IF I had road side locations. I would probly change my metho

I like a sturdy stabilizer. I have my stabilizers lazer cut out of 1/4" steel. They have 2 holes cut in them so I can feed my 11 gauge wire through to support the snare. I drive them into frozen ground with little effort. And with a bend up or down I can lower or raise my loop.

Almost all my trapping is walking only. Sometimes upto a mile. I can carry 2-4 dozen quick supports depending which I'm using in a pack basket or bucket easily that far.

SNIPERBO
Walking on the edge or on the Salt marsh (meadows is what we call'm)You nead both hands free. There is no way you can get a pack basket through,with anything that is not all the way in the pack basket

ofcourse you could cut a trail to walk on. But that would be too much work for what you would gain.
We have to adjust to our terain.
Teacher been here. At our School he walked it

I do not have the time to be stubborn and only do it one way. I do what I have to do when I have to do it 10 to 15 different ways a day. My living comes from snaring and cage trapping where the location and situations are given to me. Most times, I have one spot to catch the critter that is causing the damage and the customer is freaking out and wants it done now!!!!, One situation to figure it out and get it done as fast as I can or I do not pay my bills. I am a method based on location trapper. What fits the location method and tool best, is what I do, not what I want to. ADC and Wildlife control has forced me to become this. I will be the first to say If I was only fur trapping I would most likely be a location-based on method trapper and do it one way. Newt will tell you I will use 14ga around a sapling or 11 in the ground or 9 on a spike in the middle of the field or if I have to a split stick as a support, just get it done right. I use the inverted S or a collar based on how I want the loop position and tilt. I want a downward fire and a swing-out fire in that loop so I have all the bases covered so when I do not foresee something. If I miss that animal I may not get another chance at it Again. Between my wife and I using cages and cable in the last 2 weeks we have caught close to 75 groundhogs, I have lost count of coon and skunks using the mindset of making it happen with what the best method and tool is for the spot. By the way, GOD keeps me very humbled as to show me how much I do not know most of the time by a dumb squirrel. I am always looking for faster better ways of getting it done.

You can't use BGs when trapping chucks?
A 160 RBG with only one spring with a spike for the rivet stuck In the den entrance and a rod shoved through the spring and your good to go. 2 min tops.

But your absolutely right by doing what ever suits the situation.

We all assume whoever is talking here is talking about our conditions. I’ve been to the SouthJersey Snaring and Trapping school. The terrain is 100% different. A coon Newt had hanging in his shop was pathetic compared to a Minnesota coon, but the red fox they have out there really put ours to shame, color-wise. And yet I learned a lot. It was good, practical information applicable to the Midwest and every other part of the country.

Ron Jones and I have emailed extensively on the difference between trapping fur and nuisance animal removal. If I don’t catch something (fur) it’s no big deal except it hurts my pride. But an ADC guy who doesn’t catch a specific animal doesn’t get paid, and this makes it a big deal.

The three instructors have all trapped fur and do ADC work. Their methods are worth putting to use because this is how they make a good portion of their livings. When Ron and Newt and Morgan Bennett write something, I follow it very closely.

I hate coons except when they are in a customer's attic. Hey Teacher, those were my foxes you saw.

As I recall, they were beautiful compared to ours here.