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So Columbus started the trouble #6895665
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Haven't seen it mentioned on here yet, but if it has tell me and I will delete this. Get rid of all of Christopher Columbus and we will have a new beginning. I've never had an obsession with statues but I guess they really stir some up. The only incidence I ever personally knew of to do with a statue was we had a huge statue of a dog in the city library close to school. One night for lack of anything else to do one of our class clowns sprayed some yellow paint under the old dogs tail, sure looked like he had the runs. I still don't to this day know what the significance of the dog is.

But why tear down a statue of Columbus. As one genius stated he was no good and thus our country is no good either. Just think if he had never stumbled into this land of milk and honey. Many of us would still be somewhere else in the world. I guess part of me would still be in Europe and part of me Native American, in other words I most likely would not exist. And just think how many Americans would still be in Africa? Really, where would you rather be?

Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Foxpaw] #6895675
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Might as well destroy the site of the Lost Colony, Jamestown, and Plymouth Rock.

Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Foxpaw] #6895695
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I'd bet Columbus, Ohio will be changing the name of their city.


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Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Foxpaw] #6895738
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The ones looking to destroy our history sure are not letting go of theirs anytime soon.


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Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Gary Benson] #6895741
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Wonder if they'll destroy Jim the Wonder Dog museum next.

Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Foxpaw] #6895745
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Haven't seen it mentioned on here yet, but if it has tell me and I will delete this. Get rid of all of Christopher Columbus and we will have a new beginning. I've never had an obsession with statues but I guess they really stir some up. The only incidence I ever personally knew of to do with a statue was we had a huge statue of a dog in the city library close to school. One night for lack of anything else to do one of our class clowns sprayed some yellow paint under the old dogs tail, sure looked like he had the runs. I still don't to this day know what the significance of the dog is.

But why tear down a statue of Columbus. As one genius stated he was no good and thus our country is no good either. Just think if he had never stumbled into this land of milk and honey. Many of us would still be somewhere else in the world. I guess part of me would still be in Europe and part of me Native American, in other words I most likely would not exist. And just think how many Americans would still be in Africa? Really, where would you rather be?

The goal is to erase history and replace it with a made up history. I hate to use the analogy since it's so over used and wrongly used these days but the Nazi's tried the same thing in WWII. In major areas where Jews had settled, they tried to erase everything about them including their history. The same is happening here with, in most instances, full local government support. These are truly dangerous times we are living in. We could very easily lose it all, our freedom, our country, our security, our rights and even our history. These people are evil to the core and this is only the beginning. Lord help us if they ever achieve total power.


I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Foxpaw] #6895746
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Much of this is what young people are taught in schools. Most of this is coming from these young people who idolize Bernie Sanders. Lord help us if they are America's future.


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Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Foxpaw] #6895763
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Might as well cgange the name of this country also.

Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Foxpaw] #6896125
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Maybe my mother said it best: "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face."

Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Finster] #6896129
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Haven't seen it mentioned on here yet, but if it has tell me and I will delete this. Get rid of all of Christopher Columbus and we will have a new beginning. I've never had an obsession with statues but I guess they really stir some up. The only incidence I ever personally knew of to do with a statue was we had a huge statue of a dog in the city library close to school. One night for lack of anything else to do one of our class clowns sprayed some yellow paint under the old dogs tail, sure looked like he had the runs. I still don't to this day know what the significance of the dog is.

But why tear down a statue of Columbus. As one genius stated he was no good and thus our country is no good either. Just think if he had never stumbled into this land of milk and honey. Many of us would still be somewhere else in the world. I guess part of me would still be in Europe and part of me Native American, in other words I most likely would not exist. And just think how many Americans would still be in Africa? Really, where would you rather be?

The goal is to erase history and replace it with a made up history. I hate to use the analogy since it's so over used and wrongly used these days but the Nazi's tried the same thing in WWII. In major areas where Jews had settled, they tried to erase everything about them including their history. The same is happening here with, in most instances, full local government support. These are truly dangerous times we are living in. We could very easily lose it all, our freedom, our country, our security, our rights and even our history. These people are evil to the core and this is only the beginning. Lord help us if they ever achieve total power.

yup


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Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Foxpaw] #6896369
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As much as we dislike the idea of it, us older, sensible folks will have to take this country back......or lose it. What side are you on?


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Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Foxpaw] #6896380
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Its not made up history. Columbus was a slaver. What most people dont want to know is EVERY culture at that time in human history had slave's. That fact doesn't make slavery right but it does put the practice in perspective. No matter what or who found the America's first Columbus is the man who put them on the map. An incredible feat when you realize it was 500 years ago.

I will share a hole with you Lee.


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Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Law Dog] #6896384
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
The ones looking to destroy our history sure are not letting go of theirs anytime soon.


lol


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Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Finster] #6896385
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Haven't seen it mentioned on here yet, but if it has tell me and I will delete this. Get rid of all of Christopher Columbus and we will have a new beginning. I've never had an obsession with statues but I guess they really stir some up. The only incidence I ever personally knew of to do with a statue was we had a huge statue of a dog in the city library close to school. One night for lack of anything else to do one of our class clowns sprayed some yellow paint under the old dogs tail, sure looked like he had the runs. I still don't to this day know what the significance of the dog is.

But why tear down a statue of Columbus. As one genius stated he was no good and thus our country is no good either. Just think if he had never stumbled into this land of milk and honey. Many of us would still be somewhere else in the world. I guess part of me would still be in Europe and part of me Native American, in other words I most likely would not exist. And just think how many Americans would still be in Africa? Really, where would you rather be?

The goal is to erase history and replace it with a made up history. I hate to use the analogy since it's so over used and wrongly used these days but the Nazi's tried the same thing in WWII. In major areas where Jews had settled, they tried to erase everything about them including their history. The same is happening here with, in most instances, full local government support. These are truly dangerous times we are living in. We could very easily lose it all, our freedom, our country, our security, our rights and even our history. These people are evil to the core and this is only the beginning. Lord help us if they ever achieve total power.


Get rid of the Jewish history then get rid of the Jews.

Get rid of the white history then.........


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Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: Foxpaw] #6896387
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Columbus only REALLY got popular during FDR's days. He wanted to swing the dago vote his way.

He never set foot on what became the USA. Much rather recognize founders of Jamestown, Roanoke or some other early founders that established what America became.

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Columbus is the man that started European world exploration. He died thinking he had found a new part of India but that doesn’t diminish the feat.


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Re: So Columbus started the trouble [Re: danny clifton] #6896403
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Columbus is the man that started European world exploration. He died thinking he had found a new part of India but that doesn’t diminish the feat.

Might want to brush up on history Danny. Euro world exploration started well before Columbus. Remember at the time Portugal and Spain were neck and neck exploring the seas and Portugal was leading. The pope decided that Spain could have one half of the world and Portugal the other. That's why Spain dominated the Americas and Portugal Africa and the Indian Ocean. Brazil was just far enough east that Portugal could lay claim. The urge to go West was based on Nordic explores' stories. Did Columbus have a huge impact? Absolutely. But it was more for Latin America. Britain had already been fishing off the coast. It wasn't until they wanted to grow out of their little island 150 years later that they threw their hat in and really got things going.

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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Columbus is the man that started European world exploration. He died thinking he had found a new part of India but that doesn’t diminish the feat.


Europeans were travelling all over the globe way before Columbus.

The Vikings settled in Greenland and Canada.

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No history is exempt for these people. They want to destroy all of it so people forget.


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Originally Posted by charles
Might as well destroy the site of the Lost Colony, Jamestown, and Plymouth Rock.

Don't give them any ideas


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