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Re: Nascar [Re: Sawmill Creek] #6896517
06/11/20 10:52 AM
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Finally Run aground in TN
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Soon enough there will be 43 really fast pizza delivery guys available.


I do all my own stunts ..... but never intentionally
Re: Nascar [Re: whartonrattrappe] #6896531
06/11/20 11:17 AM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Originally Posted by whartonrattrappe
Does anybody else think their sponsors had a say in them banning the flag?

Thier sponsors run the show now that the fans have abandoned them.



How many young people you know drinking Budweiser and Miller?

Utilizing investment services?

Caring what oil goes in their car at Jiffy Lube, if they even have a car? lol

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Re: Nascar [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6896571
06/11/20 12:05 PM
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NY
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by whartonrattrappe
Does anybody else think their sponsors had a say in them banning the flag?

Thier sponsors run the show now that the fans have abandoned them.



How many young people you know drinking Budweiser and Miller?

Utilizing investment services?

Caring what oil goes in their car at Jiffy Lube, if they even have a car? lol


Well, my 23 yr old son and all his buddies drink bud/bud light.

He has 50g in his retirement account, on a high school diploma. (which by the way he received when he was 16)

Changes his own oil on his daily driver and a 2018 Silverado 1500.

None of them boys know what the real world is and don't care.

They live like we did when we were kids...with the exception of having a lot more money.

I also know a little of the inner workings of Nascar, being a weekly racing series champion it the late 90's.

When I went to Orlando for the big shindig (paid for by nascar) they had us sit through a series of sessions on how to properly represent the sponsors of nascar, and that without them their would be no nascar.

Re: Nascar [Re: Ouananiche] #6896588
06/11/20 12:40 PM
06/11/20 12:40 PM
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Georgia
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Originally Posted by Ouananiche
Originally Posted by charles
The Confederate flag should not be associated with NASCAR because NASCAR is very dependent upon national advertisers, and they probably will not favor that association. Reminds me of the saying "cutting off your hand to spite your face".


That's only true if growth is the goal.
The same thing happened with the NHL expanding south.
They had decided that putting more NHL teams in Canada wouldn't create more viewership. Everyone in Canada that would watch, already was.... Hence why putting a team near Toronto makes no sense, you aren't creating new fans.

So they started pushing south, until they felt the backlash, that led to Winnipeg.
Now they will push on south again until it hits a wall.

Losing the confederate flag is a sign that NASCAR thinks its time to spread outside its southern strongholds.

It may be the wrong decision...
Still seems like a mistake the NHL made..... (no offence southerners, i love ya, just some of those NHL teams were a big mistake haha)

But it's quite clear, having witnessed these sorts of things before, that this is what NASCAR is doing...
Forsaking long time fans, for long time growth... that's the idea.


They've been trying to go national for over a decade with little to no results and a shrinking fan base.

Atlanta Motor Speedway has torn down an entire grandstand for lack of butts in the seats. Now there's talk of building Georgia's first casino on the property due to lack of interest.

Nascar has basically told it's base to go hump themselves long ago without understanding the rest of the country could care less about stock car racing.

Re: Nascar [Re: Sawmill Creek] #6896590
06/11/20 12:45 PM
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If you don't have fans you won't have nascar either.

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Re: Nascar [Re: KeithC] #6896591
06/11/20 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Just like the circus. Nascar is caving to pressure from people who aren't patrons of Nascar and will end up alienating their actual patrons, who will hate the changes they made

Keith


Yep, and where's the circus now?

Re: Nascar [Re: Sawmill Creek] #6896725
06/11/20 04:04 PM
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"Bubba" Wallace, seriously? They find this guy at central casting or what?

Re: Nascar [Re: Sawmill Creek] #6896732
06/11/20 04:11 PM
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he's only there cause of who his dad is just like Jr. wink










Re: Nascar [Re: Sawmill Creek] #6896740
06/11/20 04:22 PM
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Different Darrell Wallace. This one owns a cleaning company not race cars.

Re: Nascar [Re: Sawmill Creek] #6896746
06/11/20 04:28 PM
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not what i meant. wink










Re: Nascar [Re: Sawmill Creek] #6896747
06/11/20 04:30 PM
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NASCAR being a limp wrist; the writing was on the wall years ago when they folded over the tobacco crap. The Winston cup was racing. Now, they might as well hand out participation trophies and let them drive Big Wheels. It would be just as entertaining. I hope every redneck in the country (that will still go see this crap) brings a 20 foot Confederate flag and flies it in the infield! Time to flip the bird to NASCAR executive's, they are a bunch of sniveling cowards.


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Re: Nascar [Re: Sawmill Creek] #6896751
06/11/20 04:38 PM
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now Skeeter,we don't want any trouble in here.










Re: Nascar [Re: Sawmill Creek] #6896769
06/11/20 04:57 PM
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Here’s a recap. Enjoy.



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Re: Nascar [Re: Sawmill Creek] #6896772
06/11/20 04:59 PM
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