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Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897315
06/12/20 03:30 AM
06/12/20 03:30 AM
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centrel PA
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Give him a year and buy his equipment real cheap lol

Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897321
06/12/20 04:43 AM
06/12/20 04:43 AM
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Your worried about the wrong stuff. First time for everything. Mistakes create lessons you never forget. Deer hunting isn't a competition or a religion for normal people.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897331
06/12/20 05:16 AM
06/12/20 05:16 AM
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Northern Maine
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He will learn.At least he is not standing at some street corner.


Nevada bound
Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897362
06/12/20 06:47 AM
06/12/20 06:47 AM
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Fredonia, PA.
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Originally Posted by Mason Mayer
Yeah much better than smoking crack even though that’s the only ways I think he comes up with these ideas of his

laugh


I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: dkrug] #6897366
06/12/20 06:52 AM
06/12/20 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dkrug
Never under estimate desire and will power.
I gave a crack answer above.
But you should google the 5 year old from Utah, that a trooper stopped who was on his way to California with $3 dollars to buy a Lamborghini

Hey, that was me.


wanna be goat farmer.
Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897368
06/12/20 06:53 AM
06/12/20 06:53 AM
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Fredonia, PA.
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I was sort of in the same boat when I was a kid. No one in my family hunted. I was the black sheep. I had no one to teach me or mentor me. I learned everything on my own. by reading books and magazines. My knowledge was hard won and I made all kinds of mistakes but that's what learning is all about. Some people will fail and quit. I never liked failing much so it just made me more determined to succeed. Lessons like that will not only make you a better sportsman but will guide you through life. I say let him have at it. There are a bunch of lessons to be learned there from failure. Everything from getting in trouble by the local warden to freezing you butt off. It's all a lesson and will make success when it happens that much sweeter.


I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897375
06/12/20 07:08 AM
06/12/20 07:08 AM
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Southern NJ
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Some people can learn from others. Most have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. Some of us just insist on learning things the hard way. Best not to interfere and let the education begin.


-Ryan
Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897376
06/12/20 07:10 AM
06/12/20 07:10 AM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Can’t help you. I have a fiend that had never been in the woods. His cousin took him Deer hunting, they got in the stand. Ten minutes later he says to his cousin, “I think I hear something.” His cousin chuckles and tells him to be quiet, it’ll be awhile for things to “cool off” after their walk to the stand. !!!!Boom!!!! His cousin says WTH. Perfect 8 point down, 30 yds away. They climb down, the cousin is excited about the kill, the friend is crying.

Anything can happen when you are in the woods. That’s why it’s so great just to be in there.


-Goofy-
Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897379
06/12/20 07:19 AM
06/12/20 07:19 AM
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He doesn't need someone to tell him he's dumb, he needs someone to help him along and pick him up when he fails.

Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: BernieB.] #6897387
06/12/20 07:28 AM
06/12/20 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
He doesn't need someone to tell him he's dumb, he needs someone to help him along and pick him up when he fails.

X2. Some of us are slow learners.


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Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897390
06/12/20 07:30 AM
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This is a strange thread. He is your friend and your calling him
Stupid and dumb? Hunting is easy now days, I wouldn’t be surprised
If he could do it all by himself the first few times out. Bows are
Very easy to learn on now. YouTube has everything regarding
Processing and when I was 12 I drug a doe I shot with my bow
Down are access road by Myself A half mile on pure adrenaline.



Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897391
06/12/20 07:31 AM
06/12/20 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason Mayer
So my friend is getting into hunting this year and he’s never even gone hunting or has accompanied someone hunting, he bought a bow and he wants to go deer hunting and he also bought clothes that won’t keep him warm even though he insists they will like insulated rain boots even though it gets in the negatives. He wants to hunt on land he doesn’t even have permission to hunt on and he is just thinking he can go out and get a deer real easy. And he insists that he can drag it up and feild dress it even though he has noooo experience. The real kicker is that he might even try to hunt alone even though he is 15 which would make it illegal. He bought trail cams and salt licks which are cool but he just has no experience and is thinking it’s gonna be easy and he won’t get cold. Then I call him out for so many things and basically say he is an idiot, then he gets mad at me for talking to him like he is stupid. What should I tell him to get it through his thick skull that he’s not gonna go out there and get big buck. Especially because he don’t even have experience finding a dead animal or keeping quiet or anything like that. I’m frustrated with him because he just don’t get it.


Now you know exactly what it feels like to be a father! laugh


Let your friend make his mistakes and allow him to learn from them. That's what we've all done. Obviously you want to discourage him from doing anything illegal. Other than that, be patient with him. Try to gently encourage him and kindly educate him without acting like a know-it-all. If you tell him he's an idiot, you can be sure he won't listen to anything you say. The last thing you want to do is tell him it's too difficult and he can't do it. Tell him "it's not easy but I think you can do it."


What from Christ that soul can sever,
Bound by everlasting bands?
None shall take thee
From the Strength of Israel's hands.

Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: BernieB.] #6897392
06/12/20 07:32 AM
06/12/20 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
He doesn't need someone to tell him he's dumb, he needs someone to help him along and pick him up when he fails.


x3.

Unless you are one of those 14 yr old self taught experts on youtube (joke), then someone helped you at some point. I am hoping it was your own father, grand father, maybe some uncles, and all the guys they hunt / trap / fish with.

If so, consider giving it back starting with your friend.


“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers


Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897394
06/12/20 07:34 AM
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JMO but their is a big problem with being the teacher or any type of expert. In my experience when I spend too much time teaching, I forget that I am needing to be the student. Im 50 and still learning young man. I plan to be a student of life for every day I remain here.


“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers


Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897421
06/12/20 08:17 AM
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Not everyone grew up in a hunting family or was lucky enough to have a mentor. Help him where you can. He will learn best from his mistakes.

Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897439
06/12/20 08:38 AM
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My experience is these are the kind of guys that shoot the biggest buck in the county the 3rd time they go out.

Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897450
06/12/20 08:55 AM
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There are a lot of people out there that as soon as you say they Can't do something, they get pig headed to prove you wrong. Or if they hear advice that contradicts what they were thinking. Instead of telling him that his equipment is wrong or that he can't do things, give him some tips on what to do if things go wrong.

If his feet start getting cold, do toe crunches. No matter how long you go out, it is always good to put some hand warmers in your pockets. If you shoot something just before dark, try to mark the last place and come back in the morning.

If you go out alone, the smartest thing he could do is let someone know where his is going. Make sure he has a cell phone and your number just in case the deer is too big to handle. Let him know you are there for him if/when he needs help.

From there, let him learn. Apparently he is head strong to do this himself. You never know, he could surprise you.

Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897460
06/12/20 09:10 AM
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Don't discount beginners luck.
I know a guy who...
never hunted in his life,
Never spent a day in the woods,
borrowed a gun from my cousin.
Never fired it before season
Was taken out in the woods before sun up on opening morning
was told to sit here
and in less than 5 minutes of opening shot a massive 10 point buck

It can and does happen.

Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897461
06/12/20 09:10 AM
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At one point in time every one of us knew less about hunting than your "dumb" friend. As far as hunting illegally because he is to young I'd be more worried about why the state thinks they can tell a 15 year old young man that he cant hunt without finding someone to take him. I killed my first deer at when I was 11 years old it was a small 8 point with a bow cheap uninsulated clothing setting on the ground under a persimmon tree. The only issue here is today's youth are being robbed of that same experience because of bogus laws and guys telling them "you cant do it like that".

Re: My friend is ignorant [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6897462
06/12/20 09:11 AM
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My thinking is let him learn on his own, if that is the way he wants to do it. His desire and wanting to do something will be his best teacher and he will learn fast of the do's and don'ts. I would let him know that if he needs advise, that there are mentors for him to lean on, if he needs so.
As long as he is going things legal and according to the law, I see no problem with him learning on his own he can think for himself. I wish him success.


Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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