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otter killing flatheads? #6898698
06/13/20 06:07 PM
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Seems like flathead catch is slowing around here. Started about the time otter began showing up. Otter are EVERYWHERE in E. Kansas now. Not an animal I have much experience with. Are they killing flatheads while they are on the nest?


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Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: danny clifton] #6898699
06/13/20 06:09 PM
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My guess is otter could kill any fish they want to, any time of year. They are a cool aminal, but a little bit goes a long ways. They are destructive.
Creek chubs and bluegill/sunfish here in the crick has dropped bad the last 5 yrs. We have lots of otter.

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Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: danny clifton] #6898742
06/13/20 07:17 PM
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otter more evil than cheeto man.









Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: pcr2] #6898747
06/13/20 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pcr2
otter more evil than cheeto man.

it's a toss-up


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Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: danny clifton] #6898771
06/13/20 08:01 PM
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Same thing happened her after otter introduction. Flatheads travel up the river during high water and get stranded in pools when it goes down some. Before the otter no biggy they just head back to the lake when the water comes back up. After the otter came they died in the pools during low water. It is amazing how big a fish otter or group of otters can kill.
I was a serious flathead trotliner during this time. The bigger male flatheads took a big hit when the water levels were wrong for them. They havenít recovered 50lb plus fish are getting harder to come by every year. Smaller fish can navigate shallow water much better.
I caught my limit of five otter in a feeder creek that dumps into our river in 6 nights with only three traps. We have otter everywhere. Coyotes of the water.




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Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: danny clifton] #6898855
06/13/20 10:03 PM
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Yes, and the information highway has created more flathead fishermen.


There are more good fishermen, than fish now.




On a positive note it looks like NE got a new state record for rod n reel, at 89lbs.

Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: danny clifton] #6898864
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I have channel in my pond, and others as well, this winter I had an otter come into my pond, and start killing my channel. It would only eat the fish from the ribs back. I do not like otters at all!


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Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: Marty B] #6898867
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[quote=Marty BOn a positive note it looks like NE got a new state record for rod n reel, at 89lbs.[/quote]
Nice

Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: danny clifton] #6898899
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I forgot to mention that I'm at least 6 miles from the nearest river!


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Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: Yukon John] #6898915
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They don't mind cricks either.


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Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: pcr2] #6899004
06/14/20 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by pcr2
otter more evil than cheeto man.

confused

Fun to chase !!! ie trap!!!


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Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: danny clifton] #6899245
06/14/20 11:24 AM
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whats the biggest fish that anyone has found that a otter has eat? I found a flathead that would have weighted over 20. Only thing left was the backbone and head. I caught a big male otter a day later that was 30 pounds. I have always wondered if he killed that fish him self or had help.

Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: danny clifton] #6899264
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Years ago when I went to a pond I was ice fishing that the otters had pop a hole on the edge of the ice where there is brush and ate some catfish and all is left is the head.


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Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: danny clifton] #6899294
06/14/20 12:29 PM
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Coons can take out catfish as well. Many times I've pulled up to limb lines to find the line pulled up onto the limb with just bones left.

Re: otter killing flatheads? [Re: danny clifton] #6899298
06/14/20 12:35 PM
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I know they eat turtles. I watched a family of 6 otters take turns diving off a root ball and catching pond sliders. They would eat off the legs and the heads and go get another one.


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