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Dont know if the guy that Kirk licensed his traps to is making his beaver sized one or not. I would shudder at the price of it based on what he was wanting for the 12x12 coon trap at Escaba.
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Kirk is on here- reach out to him. Super knowledgeable about beavers in general. He sold his trap manufacturing to a Canadian company, Advanced Traps. About 10 yrs ago I paid $125 for a powered bobcat single door. More than triple that now. I would doubt they are selling as the are down to one design in 3 sizes now. www.advancedtrap.com I have been running Tomahawk stuff for a few years and it is impressive. Same company makes Comstock cages too, in Wisconsin.
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I have been testing traps and working with a manufacturer since October of last year. Covid has been a big factor in production of the new traps. The first model will be available next month. It can be ordered within 14 days. I first made the trap about five years ago. It’s probably one of the best and most effective traps I have ever used. It has a reduced magnetic field intensity going through the trap. The doors are extremely fast . It has caught many red fox, gray fox, beaver, otter, bobcat, Possum, raccoon, and other animals. I know of no other trap that has the ability to Catch that this trap Has. Easy to set and replace trigger wires if’s needed.It works equally as well on land as it does underwater Or in water, even floated. The manufacture has been in business over 30 years and maintains normally a workforce of over 10 people. It has full manufacturing capabilities. It will be competitively price.The prototypes that they made and we tested caught extremely well. Airport trapper and warrior have traps very similar almost identical to it. It has a detachable Bait cage Option if you want to use it as a single door.
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I have 6 comstocks, 2 advance, 2 hancock. In my opinion both Jim and Kirk have great designs unfortunately I was late to the game on power traps and could only get 2 of kirks. I love my Hancock's also because if you need to switch it up, I've found footholds, body grip, and cage traps people feel pretty comfortable messing with because all 3 are straight forward on how they work but Hancock's not so much. They can't figure out is a trap old piece of chainlink fence, some sort of pipe guard ect... my opinion keep with those 3 and you won't be disappointed.
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Lots of beaver captured in the 16 by 16 have a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) traps with no damage Love Jimmy’s and kirks old designs
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Kirk, Did these traps ever make it to market? I liked the traps you had when you had advanced trap. However, the guys you sold to have priced those out of the market.
I would like to know also.
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Re: Powered Cage Traps——-
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Aix - long time no see my friend. For your conditions and volume stay with Jim Comstock’s cage traps. They are durable and have the best triggers on the market. best, Willy
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10/18/21 08:22 PM
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Aix - long time no see my friend. For your conditions and volume stay with Jim Comstock’s cage traps. They are durable and have the best triggers on the market. best, Willy Have you ever tried one of Kirk's?
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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No, I have not tried a trap that exists only in memories of the past or in collections.
I need a trap that is durable and has a great trigger so there are no misfires and no escapes. That is why I use Comstock traps. And in case you wonder - I get no free traps or discounts.
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Kirk's traps do not exist only in memories or collections! Some of us own them and use them.
They are work horse traps, no misfires, no escapes and as durable as any trap on the market.
I do not have anything bad to say about Jim's traps either and own several of his too.
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I guess if I hadn't invited kirk to spend a few days at our home in Sept of 2007 after the New York State Trappers Convention and showed him the very first conibear style wire trigger, cage traps I had invented in 2003, you guys wouldn't have the traps you like, which was basically my first invention. I had a number of variations of what kirk made, that worked o.k., but saw a need for better. From there I knew I could improve on the trigger by utilizing the power in the first powered door traps, with powered lock bars to stabilize the trigger and at the same time get rid of all the unnecessary springs, clips etc. It took 3 months to engineer, but it worked. Simplicity as always proves best, fewer parts in a totally self contained unit. Glad so many guys like the powered door, wire trigger traps. For those in Canada, our beaver traps are certified.
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Kirk's traps do not exist only in memories or collections! Some of us own them and use them.
They are work horse traps, no misfires, no escapes and as durable as any trap on the market.
I do not have anything bad to say about Jim's traps either and own several of his too. So where can I buy a new, economical priced Kirk trap today???
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Re: Powered Cage Traps——-
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Aix - long time no see my friend. For your conditions and volume stay with Jim Comstock’s cage traps. They are durable and have the best triggers on the market. best, Willy Good morning sir, I was wondering what you’d been up to lately. When I was in the market for a few powered cage traps, Comstock’s were what was available. I am very satisfied with the 12x18 beaver trap. It’s more versatile than I expected it to be. I really like the additional width. Right or wrong, I feel as though it creates a more inviting opening.
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Jim, why don't you make the trigger with less travel?
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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No, I have not tried a trap that exists only in memories of the past or in collections.
I need a trap that is durable and has a great trigger so there are no misfires and no escapes. That is why I use Comstock traps. And in case you wonder - I get no free traps or discounts. Yea...
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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No, I have never tried a Kirk trap. The praise here sounds good. If available would give them a very brief look.
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The last thing I want to do is have to grind the trigger on a brand new trap althoughthat's exactlywhatwehad to do to make it function the way it should. The 12x12 comes with enough slack that otter can get through without setting the trap off. That's a pretty big problem with the otter bringing $300 on the live market. I have yet to talk with anyone who uses them who wants that much travel.
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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To make a trap function "they way it should," is subjective. There are tradeoffs no matter what you do. You know every trapper has is own way of doing things, likes and dislikes, preferences and ways he will modify virtually every trap made, to suit his own specific situation. My best example of personal preference had to do with something as simple as handles on a cage trap, two. In less than an hour two trappers called. One said, "oh I love the two handles." A few minutes later a second caller said, "I like the traps but I don't like the two handles." I rest my case. Because many trappers use the 12x12 for beaver, the extra travel is a plus. I have caught 61 pounders in them and heard of them up to 63 pounds in the small traps. They barely fit. Charlie Dobbins was one of best at it, someone I admired. He shared a lot of great ideas in his writings and books. I sought him out at every convention to see what new idea he came up with and how he made traps work all the better. In the 70's when I trapped with Thorpe I added springs to the Blake and Lamb #1 single long spring double jaw traps before anyone made them, 120 actually, and they worked very well, the first double jay, double #1's ever made. I still have some. When I trapped bobcats in California for 8 years I pulled the jaws out of my 1 3/4 Northwoods, reversed them and popped them back in to create the first offset jawed Northwoods traps ever made, superior because it was only a slight offset with round edges that other traps did not have. I could hold a cat by the tip of one toe without injury and lost but 3 catches in over 1100. I drilled and swiveled the base plates for a center fire trap and added swivels to many dozens of them. I added springs to the weak side on some, put heavier springs on others, left many as is. I replaced the steel pan bolts, drilled over sized holes, added stainless bolts with washers. I put large links on the ends of the short trap chain to accommodate 2 opposite facing dog swivels for quick connects to 10 foot grapples. I beefed up the dogs on my 7.5 CDR traps because they needed the strength to hold up. I cut the levers down on my Victor #3 coil spring traps and rewelded them shorter to pick up less dirt and fire quicker, added base plates too. I built my own 660's from Belisles, made my own 660 self supporting conibears, made stretch conibear traps from 160's 220's and 280's. I took a lot of pride and satisfaction in what I did as Charlie did and never complained to anyone that out of the box traps weren't exactly what I wanted. I guess over the years I have modified just about every trap I have ever set in one way or other to make it my trap for my own situation. Another way to have approached this might have been to say, "the traps are really solid, well made, with fast closing doors. The trigger travel was a bit longer than I wanted so I took a minute and made the simple adjustment to make them work for my situation."
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Re: Powered Cage Traps——-
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No. When someone claims to build the "best cage trap ever made ". It should actually be the best. Maybe the design has changed in the last few years but the one I ran for otter was definitely not well designed. Had to add a rod to keep the springs on the doors from breaking the cage wire. The doors have decent speed but are not the fastest on the market.
Sure they are great for beaver. But a $200 cage should be able to catch more than beaver well.
Don't get me wrong, I have a few issues with Kirk's as well.
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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The 12x12 traps were first built for raccoons as we already had a great beaver/otter trap in the 12x18x39. The 12x12 has been used successfully for badgers, armadillos, 'possum, porcupines, otter and beaver, even catching fox and bobcat, with the single door traps a great fisher trap. In the single door traps used for fisher, videos have shown the factory trigger travel works as it should, no misses. I have stayed with the larger 12x18x39 cage traps for both beaver and otter in my nuisance work as I like the wide opening, which is more like a 660 in width. Besides all the beaver, we have taken quite a number of live otter in them in dry sets on land and of course in incidental beaver sets under water. Since otters travel together in groups a lot of the time and stay very close together, it is quite common to double in them in the wide 12x18 traps. Besides the many doubles, I have heard of one triple in them, all pups and one trapper who caught 5 large male otter on the Washington coast under a house in a dry land set. As surprised as anyone, Marci said they were all 20 pound males. Washington is loaded with otter. Jonathan Munsterman had a great video of 6 otter coming out single file from under a house. In the East we have skunks and woodchucks under houses. Washington has otters.
I'm so glad Charlie Dobbins made us realize there was a lot more that could be done with most any out of the box trap. Many of us had never understood what could be accomplished with some cutting, welding, grinding. After reading his books I couldn't wait to start tearing traps apart and rebuilding them with confidence. If someone feels there is a necessity for a faster cage trap, springs can be added to the lock bar or our traps quite easily by making one cut in the lock bar spring rod and slipping one or more springs onto the bar, then welding the cut, all of which takes little more than a minute. But, there is strong, stronger and sometimes way too strong. I remember pushing the limits beyond what was practical with footholds. I took a Northwoods 1 3/4 and made it into a four coiled trap, with 4 large springs. I put it together, set it, placed it on the bench and stepped back, only to watch the trap base buckle and bend while the trap folded under the additional spring tension. Also, though not everything can be altered when constructing new traps, some things can be changed. If a trap with a short travel is required it could be custom made at the factory very easily by simply putting a shorter rod on top of the swing bar.
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You, my friend, are missing my point.
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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So what improvements have you made to the traps from customer opinions?
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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Trappers wanted more and better options with the trigger wires. We heard it regularly, so we came up with two new trigger wires for the 9x11 because wires sometimes broke and wires got bent after catches were made and had to be straightened inside the cage. The first new trigger wire was a clip on trigger that can be attached in seconds at any position on the swing bar. It is made to fall off after a catch is made. These are a plus because a trapper can use as many or few as he likes and position them anywhere he wants on the swing bar. Wires can get bent a bit, but after falling off they can be straightened outside of the trap and replaced. Second we made a pop on trigger from stainless spring steel with coils on each end to go onto posts on the swing bar. The ends pop on in seconds. These wires are also made to fall off after a catch is made for less damage to the wires. Two come on the swing bar, but with some animals only one is needed, like an adult woodchuck or armadillo for instance. There are 4 posts on the swing bar so that the wires overlap at center. With the new designs there are no points to potentially poke an animal, so the new triggers satisfied several issues.
With all internal trigger components these are the only traps that have the ability to set and function in any position without worry, like upside down or sideways, even vertically, but with that many new things were learned from something that had never been done before. When these traps are set with the doors closing from the side the triggers can be made to hang from the top and also come up from the bottom. All options are open. When the wires come up from the bottom it forces animals into them better, impossible to avoid. When using the beaver traps upside down the wires come up from the bottom in the same way. My friend Tim in Ohio has set our traps with the triggers coming up from the bottom and found that coon more or less left them alone and did not bend them like they did when hanging from the top or coming from the side. The just walked on them. But, from trappers we have learned that there is a vast difference in animals from one section of the country to another in how they react to all sorts of things.
I can tell you when anyone shares their experiences with us about something unexpected that happened, we were on it. Raccoons have absolutely been the worst. We used 1x1 mesh on early traps, including doors. After a year we heard that coon could actually reach through the mesh to pull on the lock bar. A trapper told me on the phone, "all you have to do is put 1/2x1 on the door to stop it." We did it, changed the next day. Because of the versatility of traps and guys setting them upside down etc. we learned things that never would have ever been an issue with standard traps set only right side up. The new setting possibilities opened up new challenges never anticipated. The gap at the top of the door was about an inch on the 9x11. It took 10 years before we heard of a coon again reaching through the opening when the traps were set upside down because a coon could lay on his belly and now reach under the top of the door that would never happen when set normally right side up. Set upside down changed the game. I was on the phone to manufacture in minutes and the gap was closed in hours.
I know from 55 years experience, if something happens once to one trapper, though not always, it will likely happen again, so changes to existing equipment are never avoided, but embraced. We want to hear about whatever needs attention. The challenge in creating is engineering simple, small, practical, solid, unbreakable and escape proof to name a few, lots to think about. It's not always one size fits all as changes are sometimes merely trade-offs, good for one and not for the other.
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In my opinion the internet creates too easy access and and too many opportunities to criticize a person or manufacturer.
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Myself and several others at different conventions have mentioned these issues to Jim in person.
Even at the NTA this year.
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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I also talked with Kirk Dekalb about the issues with his traps a few years ago.
Only one of those two actually wanted to discuss the issue.
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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Because he exclusively uses yours....
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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I can name others who done the opposite... 2 are on Tman..
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He had great success compared to what other cages? That's the key. Like I have said before, they're not bad traps, but there are traps that catch better.
How does he know he didn't miss any otter?
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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Jim - you are a good man. Nobody wastes that much of my time without paying in cash in advance.
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Why is the wire put on cage so there is a bump every inch on the lockbar? The lock bar hangs up if stopped part way thru cycle. Ideally there should be a pair of stainless runners for lock bar to slide on. It is made that way so it locks as it goes down. Animal can’t back out. Com stock promote setting his trap upside down. This makes it more difficult for the animal to push the door open and back out. The dekalb traps prevent back outs in a normal set
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Jim - you are a good man. Nobody wastes that much of my time without paying in cash in advance. I'm just trying to have a discussion
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Willy Firewood
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Airport - you may claim that you are “just trying to have a discussion”. However that is a very sanitized misrepresentation of your bickering, badgering, challenging, disagreeing, questioning, provoking, time-wasting and insulting commentary about Jim Comstock’s traps.
Why do you not have your own trap design and manufacturing facility? Why are you not nationally known for designing and manufacturing high quality animal traps? Why are you not in direct competition with Jim Comstock selling your ideally and perfectly designed traps? Why don’t you make a massive cash offer to buy out Jim Comstock’s business so you can correct the flaws and defects?
It is probably best if we all formulate our own answers to these questions.
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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Re: Powered Cage Traps——-
[Re: Aix sponsa]
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AirportTrapper
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Why would I? There are already better traps out there.
My point was he claims to have designed the best , however it is just not so. I never said they're not good traps. They're towards the top.
Are you aware of the definition of a discussion? It includes to debate.
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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Re: Powered Cage Traps——-
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Willy Firewood
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And when you replace trigger wire do not make a loop. You can end up "snareing" in a live trap. The wires can have no loops. In my arsenal of Comstock traps there are different trigger wire systems. Not one is capable of inadvertently snaring an animal. It appears not possible even if the user intentionally tried to create that result. The above contention appears to be typical misinformation or disinformation typical of current fake news reporters. I would not want to run my business without my Comstock traps.
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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[Re: Willy Firewood]
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01/01/22 11:12 AM
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Kirk De
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And when you replace trigger wire do not make a loop. You can end up "snareing" in a live trap. The wires can have no loops. In my arsenal of Comstock traps there are different trigger wire systems. Not one is capable of inadvertently snaring an animal. It appears not possible even if the user intentionally tried to create that result. The above contention appears to be typical misinformation or disinformation typical of current fake news reporters. I would not want to run my business without my Comstock traps. Sometime over the next 60 days I will do a video showing the distinct differences of a trap using a support mechanism versus a swing bar for trigger.I will show advantages and disadvantages of both. Changing the trigger on a trap with a support mechanism can be done in less than two minutes and 30 seconds. The type of trigger that it supports is far superior to any other trigger system wire trigger system. It can be used as a pan it can be used as a wire trigger bite and pull trigger a one-way trigger and a multitude of other designs and configurations.. For someone to Say any differently just doesn’t know he’s limited on what he does know or was trying to push A product that has an inferior trigger system.
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