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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6521285
04/19/19 10:33 AM
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I agree with what someone else said, this should be archived. Great post!

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6521351
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Two layers of window screen stapled together on three sides of the pan. It can be slide on and off, fits sort of tight. Works for me, I made them in the off season but can only use them once so make a lot before hand.......jk


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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6522322
04/20/19 09:00 PM
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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6523480
04/22/19 06:47 PM
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Great post RP, thanks! Have been looking for a better solution to waxed paper for my wolf traps. That looks like it would be the ticket to keep things going in freeze/thaw better. You ever tried waxing the screen? Could see it helping with snow sets.

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6523526
04/22/19 08:17 PM
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I always wax my screen covers. Just makes things easier and not worrying about contamination.

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6523765
04/23/19 08:09 AM
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I haven't waxed any myself but have heard of others doing it. I have trapped in a couple areas that had very fine sand and wished I had a few waxed screens in those instances. I think it would be a great idea in your situation, thanks for bringing it up.


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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6523769
04/23/19 08:17 AM
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Forgive my rookie question here, but what exactly is the purpose of the screen cover? Is it to keep the dirt from piling up around the working components of the trap? Or is it there for bigger pan coverage, meaning the animal hits the screen and therefor trips the pan? Both?

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6523971
04/23/19 02:50 PM
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A person has to have a way of keeping dirt and debris from keeping your pan from dropping far enough to fire. There are various ways to do this. Some put stuff under the pan and some put it over the pan.

In my opinion ths screen is superior due to the way the screen is shaped with it being straight up and down next to the jaws gives it more rigidity. So with rigidity and some pan tension helps keep the trap from firing until the animal's paw is inside the jaws of the trap far enough to make a good solid catch. This eliminates almost all toe catches, almost. Nothing is 100%. You might want to read this paragraph again, it's pretty important.

Also I like the way the screen fills the gap between the pan and the jaws as most people do not pack the dirt in this area. This way there is no soft spot that can tip a paranoid predator off. Hope this helps.


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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6529747
05/01/19 09:19 PM
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RP my pan sits lower than the jaws and 3/4 is a pretty good gap between the pan and bottom of jaws.Be anything wrong with using say 1/2 inch plywood and make the screen thinner so it will be tighter to the pan ?

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6529815
05/01/19 10:14 PM
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No, nothing wrong at all. Depending on size of trap and distance from pan to under the jaws will differ from 3/4 to 5/8 to 1/2 inch. The reason I use 3/4 is because it works on the different #3s I have.


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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6529882
05/01/19 11:36 PM
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Thank you very much. Great idea !!!!

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6897543
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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6897779
06/12/20 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rpmartin
Like I said several times already if you have a system that your happy with and it works for you then keep at it. I thought part of being a good trapper is keeping an open mind to new ideas.


Nice post rp. TMan is all about sharing and novel ideas. I'm a poly guy myself, but if I was gonna use screen, I'd try your method.

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6898430
06/13/20 12:30 PM
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Thanks Mark, always nice to have options. We trappers are a diverse group and trap in so many different conditions and soil types there are about as many different ways of doing things on the trap line as there are trappers doing it. Not sure if anyone even used this method but thought i would throw out another way. All i know is it works good for me where i trap.
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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6899844
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I have one Major problem with this method. Why couldn't this have been posted at the beginning of the virus when there was nothing to do but home bound projects ? This looks like a fantastic setup for guys like me with 2 left hands and all thumbs. Always had problems with screen but am going to use this setup real soon.

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6900022
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Talk about over analysed! Everyone's got engineering genes somewhere in their DNA and when the right subject surfaces---- they ERUPT LOL.

Re: Screen pan covers [Re: Wife] #6900045
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Thanks for sharing. Very good idea. Amazing catches too.

This is probably a dumb question, but I am brave.
How small of a trap do you think you can use and still use a screen pan cover?
Like I use # 2 Bridgers and MB550s.

Thanks again for sharing.
Mac



Re: Screen pan covers [Re: rpmartin] #6900047
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Very interesting concept. I still use coffee filters as a pan cover.


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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: ChrisM] #6900130
06/15/20 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisM
You aren’t using the screens correctly. They should be cut larger than the jaw spread so that the jaws hold them down, and they are pinched between the jars and the spring levers. As beav said, forget cutting that notch... that’s causing a lot of your bubbling problems. Why would anyone want to mess with those rubber bands? Cut the screens the right size, poke the pan notch through and you won’t have any bubbling problems.


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Hey Chris I leaned that from you and Scott.


Absolutely the correct way to use wire screen pan covers! And I learned that 43 years ago from Craig O’Gorman. Thanks Craig!


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Re: Screen pan covers [Re: Mac] #6900139
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Originally Posted by Mac
rpmartin
Thanks for sharing. Very good idea. Amazing catches too.

This is probably a dumb question, but I am brave.
How small of a trap do you think you can use and still use a screen pan cover?
Like I use # 2 Bridgers and MB550s.

Thanks again for sharing.
Mac


I’ve used window screen on 1 1/2 coils.


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