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Making corn flakes #6907640
06/22/20 09:08 PM
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Had some time tonight so I thought some of you might like to see the process of how we make flakes when feeding cattle in a commercial feed yard.

Pic 1) Corn is delivered and goes in the holding bin. Augers bring it to the scalper. Inside the scalper is a series of different size screens or drums turning and they sift the corn. Pretty much like sifting when covering a trap. Cobs, rocks, chaff, and any other foreign material is removed. After that it is moved to the soaking bin. While it is being moved water and enzymes are added bringing it to 23% moisture. The natural enzymes and moisture help soften and breakdown the protected coating on the kernel.

Pic 2) After 8-12 hours of soaking the corn enters the steam chest . It’s about 40’ tall and 8’ in diameter. Inside 4 sets of rings blast it with Steam. The top ring delivers steam at about 225 degrees and decreases to about 210 at the bottom ring. This is a bit of a art. If corn enters a bit dryer or wetter that 23% the steam is adjusted. Dryer steam or wetter steam can be added.

Pic 3 and 4) Since wet corn doesn’t like to flow and the steam chest is shaped like a giant funnel. A peg feeder helps it move into the rollers. It looks like a auger but pushes the corn down instead of moving it side to side.

Pic 5) Flaked corn is moved up and down in drag chain to the main holding area. Drag chains can move grain in a S or curve.

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Re: Making corn flakes [Re: Pawnee] #6907644
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Last pic is the final product. Flaked corn. This is considered a 25 pound flake. Meaning you can get 25 pounds in a bushel basket. A bushel of corn weighs 56 pounds.

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Re: Making corn flakes [Re: Pawnee] #6907683
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What's the advantage of feeding flakes?


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Re: Making corn flakes [Re: Pawnee] #6907688
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Unless you roll it, crack it, or flake it the kernel will come out in the calfs poop largely undigested.

Then they feed it to the tilapia (true story)


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Re: Making corn flakes [Re: Pawnee] #6907689
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Very interesting. Ya never know what you're gonna learn on this site!

Re: Making corn flakes [Re: trapdog1] #6907691
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Re: Making corn flakes [Re: Pawnee] #6907698
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Thanks Pawnee, learned something new today!

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Re: Making corn flakes [Re: Pawnee] #6907700
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What is the advantage of flaked corn over cracked corn? Cracked corn is what I buy. Just curious.


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Re: Making corn flakes [Re: Pawnee] #6907733
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Looks edible to me. You eat any of that for breakfast?


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Re: Making corn flakes [Re: run] #6907743
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Originally Posted by run
What is the advantage of flaked corn over cracked corn? Cracked corn is what I buy. Just curious.


One of the K-state guys told us the more surface area from the inside of the kernel, the more digestion would be possible.


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Re: Making corn flakes [Re: Pawnee] #6907761
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Ethanol boys engage in a like process, creates ethanol, produces a more digestible product for the livestock, and that is a great deal of expense on your part with beef and dairy prices falling in prices paid to producers.

Nothing to do with this, but I miss Post Toasties, best corn flake ever made.

Re: Making corn flakes [Re: Leftlane] #6907767
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Unless you roll it, crack it, or flake it the kernel will come out in the calfs poop largely undigested.

Then they feed it to the tilapia (true story)

This is partially not so. When fed as the only ingredient in their diet, and is commonly so during the last 120 days, corn can be fed whole.

Re: Making corn flakes [Re: Pawnee] #6907774
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Soooo, how many commercial feed lots you reckon feed corn and only corn?

Corn can ALWAYS be fed whole- mechanically breaking it down aids the conversion (yield in pounds of beef gained)


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Thanks for sharing that with us. Very interesting.


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Re: Making corn flakes [Re: run] #6907934
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Originally Posted by run
What is the advantage of flaked corn over cracked corn? Cracked corn is what I buy. Just curious.


It makes the starch more available. It’s a very fine line. If the flake is steamed and rolled to much the starch availability will be to high. 66% would be high causing bloat, cattle going off feed, and or loose stools. At 60% availability you would let to much starch pass through the animal and be wasting it. 63% is what they are shooting for now.


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Re: Making corn flakes [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6907939
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Looks edible to me. You eat any of that for breakfast?


I’ve been known to grab a handful now and then. It’s not as good as it looks! Taste like damp cornmeal


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Re: Making corn flakes [Re: Pawnee] #6907942
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Thanks for the info...very interesting.

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thanks pawnee I learned something today

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Thanks for the explanation, everyone.


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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Soooo, how many commercial feed lots you reckon feed corn and only corn?

Corn can ALWAYS be fed whole- mechanically breaking it down aids the conversion (yield in pounds of beef gained)

It is quite common, especially in fattening of the dairy breeds. Pawnees system is very good, don't get me wrong, just not feasible for feedlots under 500 head. When you feed steers a basically 100 % corn diet, their digestive system shuts down 3 of the 4 stomachs, they no longer chew their cud, yet they can digest whole kernel corn. It is very effective at weight and fat production but is very hard on the animal and can only be done for a 150 days or so, the last 150. Commercial feedlots now have byproducts of the ethanol trade to use and they are mostly corn, so with a little soybean mixed in, its still mostly corn.

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