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Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: ] #6907966
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What makes them think Jesus was white? Aren't whites/caucasians of European decent? Jesus was born in the middle east and had darker skin than today's whites.

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Check out any picture of the Palestinians, which are semites too, That's what Jesus looked like.

Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: ] #6907992
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There was no J's in the first King James Bible. James was spelled Iames. Jesus was spelled Iesous.

What was the The Da Vinci Code about anyway. I think there may be some that think if you are not of the actual blood line of Iesous and Mary then you have no shot at Heaven. That kinda puts a damper on the "whosoever will or whosoever shall" scripture.

I have read where much of this was the coming of the antichrist back in the 1500's. And the numbering of the 666 which isn't an actual number at all. Wonder if when the actual weigh in comes how many will be found lite.

I guess it leaves the question , Does the Holy Spirit lead us or not?

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Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: KeithC] #6908011
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Check out the pedigrees on www.familysearch.org

Saint Peter started the attack on Mary Magdalene. Read Luke. Mary paid for Jesus's ministry and was his favorite. She was a wealthy woman from a very wealthy family, not a prostitute. She had the closest relationship with Jesus. St. Peter was very upset by this.

Jesus would not be called rabbi under Jewish Law, if he was not married.

Pope Gregory the Great in the 6th century tried to finish her and Jesus's descendants reputations off to rest control from the European kings and emperors descended from them.

https://www.usnews.com/news/religio...ne-was-none-of-the-things-a-pope-claimed

Don't take my word for it search it online.

The major Christian religions don't want people to know about Jesus's descendants because they would likely lose power.

Being of Scottish descent, there is a fair chance you yourself, Warrior, are a descendant of Jesus if you have Stewart, Bruce, Sinclair or Campbell ancestry.

Keith

Lol. total hogwash.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: warrior] #6908016
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Originally Posted by warrior
Gnosticism heresy is all it is.

Exactly. The Gnostics basically came out with their own version of fictional events that don't fit with what the actual Apostles said.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: ] #6908019
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Anyone here want to make the switch to Muhammad? When you tear one belief down, it will most likely be replaced by another!

Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: ] #6908034
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"Don't take my word for it search it online."

LOL just about spit my bacon and eggs over that one!

Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: Foxpaw] #6908036
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
There was no J's in the first King James Bible. James was spelled Iames. Jesus was spelled Iesous.

What was the The Da Vinci Code about anyway. I think there may be some that think if you are not of the actual blood line of Lesous and Mary then you have no shot at Heaven. That kinda puts a damper on the "whosoever will or whosoever shall" scripture.

I have read where much of this was the coming of the antichrist back in the 1500's. And the numbering of the 666 which isn't an actual number at all. Wonder if when the actual weigh in comes how many will be found lite.

I guess it leaves the question , Does the Holy Spirit lead us or not?


You should get a copy of the first King James Bible and see that you are wrong. There were even Js in the translations prior to the King James.

Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: KeithC] #6908049
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Originally Posted by KeithC
For a very long time it was accepted as fact that Jesus's wife, Mary Magdalene, daughter and son went with Jesus's sons later father in law, Joseph of Arimethea and the rest of his family to stay with Joseph's relatives, who had immigrated to Wales and Scotland to buy raw goods, including precious metals and furs, to send back to the more civilized parts of the Roman Empire, 3 generations before.

Jesus's descendants married in with the descendants of Odin Dorson, who is mostly known as the God Odin now. Much of Europe's royalty and many thousands of other people are descendants of Jesus including most US Presidents. The divine right of kings came from being the descendants of Jesus.

The Catholic church's popes discredited Mary Magdalene and Jesus's descendants to maintain power. Now most people don't believe what was accepted as fact for over a thousand years.

Of course those facts could have been falsely created too.

Keith


I was under the impression that the divine right of kings was due to being "promoted" or given that position directly from God. Do you have any sources I can read into?

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I also find it amusing when people say that Jesus' name is really Yeshua. Well, yeah, did you not realize that the Bible we read was translated into English? I wonder if they are thinking that the King James was the very first version of the Bible?

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Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: Foxpaw] #6908070
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Anyone here want to make the switch to Muhammad? When you tear one belief down, it will most likely be replaced by another!


Muslims kill people who convert to Christianity, but no Christian ever converts to Islam without being forced by threat of death. That should tell you all you need to know about the two.

Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: ] #6908072
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"Of course those facts could have been falsely created too"

Another round of LOL. If they were falsely created, then they wouldn't be facts now would they?

Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: James] #6908073
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Originally Posted by James
I prefer science fiction myself.

I'd like to hear what Mark June has to say about your posts here.

Jim



James,

Just poking into TMan for a moment this morning and I see that the DeVinci Code movie has legs.
I'm bottling lures this week, as I've been away trapping for weeks, and I have a mid-term exam on Friday on the Doctrine of God, the orthodox history of our faith. It's a goodin' as far as bulk of material.

That said, I'll read the entire thread (just peeked at the first few) and maybe weight in later.
Some seems a bit off kilter at first peek.

Blessings
Mark

Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: BernieB.] #6908119
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Originally Posted by Foxpaw
There was no J's in the first King James Bible. James was spelled Iames. Jesus was spelled Iesous.

What was the The Da Vinci Code about anyway. I think there may be some that think if you are not of the actual blood line of Lesous and Mary then you have no shot at Heaven. That kinda puts a damper on the "whosoever will or whosoever shall" scripture.

I have read where much of this was the coming of the antichrist back in the 1500's. And the numbering of the 666 which isn't an actual number at all. Wonder if when the actual weigh in comes how many will be found lite.

I guess it leaves the question , Does the Holy Spirit lead us or not?


You should get a copy of the first King James Bible and see that you are wrong. There were even Js in the translations prior to the King James.


Lol, I've heard some great discussions on the little word "is" and what the meaning of it was. I wondered if just a little 2 letter word is that complicated then what about those great big words. Never the less I may have been mistaken that there is no smaller things to argue about and in fact it may be the letter "J", lol. That's why I set out to discover and attain knowledge of everything that's in all books. I can sum it up in two words, pictures & words. Actually I prefer the ones with more pitchers, lol.,

Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: ] #6908550
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Methinks Keith is getting taste of what it's like to be James. (Not in the Bible James.) Undeservedly so.

I will say that I have to agree, as I usually do on religious matters, with Danny. Looked at objectively, Keith's version is more probable than the Resurrection and ascent into the clouds. There is a principle of logic known as Occam's Razor that says when there are more than one alternative explanations for an event or phenomenon, the simplest and most ordinary explanation is probably true. Unusual, and especially extraordinary phenomena, require a higher standard of proof to overcome the presumption.

Occam's Razor is used by all of us frequently, whether or not we know it. It's part of common sense. But religious faith suspends common sense.

Keith, I suggest you recheck the evidence behind your explanation. That such a complex ancestry and explanation could survive two thousand years without scholarly notice or common knowledge also violates Occam's Razor.

Jim


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Re: Jesus is Racist [Re: ] #6908559
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Did anybody read the link? It wasn't about Gnosticism. Lol.

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Originally Posted by BernieB.
What makes them think Jesus was white? Aren't whites/caucasians of European decent? Jesus was born in the middle east and had darker skin than today's whites.


Probably looked similar to a modern day Palestinian.

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Originally Posted by J Staton
Did anybody read the link? It wasn't about Gnosticism. Lol.


They obviously did not and they obviously did not check out the very well vetted and researched website www.familysearch.com

People disbelieve what doesn't fit into their world view despite all the evidence.

Keith

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