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AR question #6908557
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Looking at picking up an AR in 22lr. Anyone have experience with one in this caliber? What is a pretty good range for it to be accurate with a good scope? 50, 75, 100 yards? Any info would be appreciated.


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Re: AR question [Re: Rockfarmer] #6908603
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I have an m&p 15-22. Bought it when my son was younger and then he grew up faster than I imagined. It's a very well built gun, but I haven't shot mine much.

Accuracy is the same as any .22

I think 75 yds is a stretch for a .22. I might use one on small game at 100yds - on a windless day, if I had a good bench rest - maybe. I wouldn't trust it to kill anything past that.

Sighted in at 50yds, you'll have between 4" and 7" bullet drop at 100 yds and you've already lost half your muzzle energy - and there wasn't much to begin with. At 150yds, 15-20" drop.

I own a bunch of .22's but I'm not a big fan when we start talking about range. If distance matters, my opinion is that something else will do the job better.


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Just my humble opinion, a 22 lr should be a 50 yard or so gun
and hit a dime every time you ask it to within that range.

An AR 15 in 22lr would be fun for burning ammo but not much else.

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I have a Nordic Components 22 RB dedicated upper to swap onto my existing AR uppers. The accuracy is excellent and it lets me practice with my regular lower and trigger assembly

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I have the conversion kit for a regular AR the thing is they don't do great in a fast twist barrel , not horrible but minute of squirrel head the hole head at 25 yards not well enough for my liking tried 1:7 1:8 and 1:9 the 1:9 was a little better. the best I could do was half dollar sized groups at 25 yards.

a friend has a 1:14 twist AR and his conversion kit works great for accuracy. 5 under a nickle at 25 yards

when I get to it I am buying the CMMG barrel and mounting it in an upper and making a dedicated 22lr upper (money) and some what hard to justify when I can get a 10/22 that shoots very well for 250 dollars 10 under a nickel

the conversion kit is good for plinking and shooting steel, just not little groups or scored slow fire targets

the dedicated 22lr barrels both 10/22 and AR are all 1:16 twist

if your looking for a AR like but not fully AR interchangeable ar-15 Style 22lr gun Tippmann makes a very nice one that will shoot competitive groups Appleseed worked with Tippmann to get these built and tested and they stand up to Appleseed shooting and accuracy the tippmann M4-22 http://www.tippmannarms.com/tippmann-arms-m4-22-elite-tactical-rifle/

the s&W M&P 22 was very popular at Appleseed but Appleseed tests every gun and shooters limits. the S&W AR- 22lr will and has fired out of battery sending shrapnel at the person next to ejection port , an issue when you are shooting with a line of shooters next to each other.
Appleseed documented this well and on multiple occasions and presented the issue to S&W and they stated the issue was chambers out of spec , guns were sent in for the recall and the issue remained after the recalled rifles were returned "fixed" they further documented it and presented to S&W and the issue was never resolved S&W said it is the out of spec chambers but doesn't want to do round 2 of recalls. Appleseed prohibits the S&W M&P 22 at their events until S&W resolves the issue , S&W doesn't seem to be interested in the issue.

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Re: AR question [Re: Rockfarmer] #6908680
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My opinion is just buy a normal 22 rifle like a ruger 10/22 or a savage or something. Something built from the beginning to be a 22. It will be more accurate and reliable in the end. If you want a rifle that looks like an AR then just buy an AR in a normal caliber.


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the major benifit of the AR is the grip ergonomics

with a 10/22 typical stock you have to chicken wing to get the right grip angle , this catches the wind and for all the work you do to keep body parts compact and stacked on bone the chicken wing sort of defies this to get the pocket in your shoulder , grip angle and c shaped trigger finger not dragging wood

with the AR you can better pin the arm down to the rig cage , but still pull the trigger at the right angel and get a good pull into your shoulder.

the Anschutz target rifles have this more vertical grip angle also the Olympic competitors shoot arm down they know it helps.

I have seen my own son turn out better scores on a 10/22 fitted with the AR type stock than the traditional stock he had trained more with.
is it enough to make a bad shooter good no but you might pick up 15 points on a 250 point target if that takes you from very consistent scores of 208 all day to a 223 that is a useful improvement it would take you from sharp shooter to expert with one change.


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Re: AR question [Re: Rockfarmer] #6908793
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Not really an ar but I have a 1022 and I can hit a soda can at 75 yards really easy and do better quite often it doesn't even have that great of a scope on it. I do have a bipod and if your building an ar you definitely should get one. I didn't know what I was missing before I had one. (Pun intended)

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agreed. Thank you for the advice. Much appreciated.


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Pretty much what I was thinkiig


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Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
I have an m&p 15-22. Bought it when my son was younger and then he grew up faster than I imagined. It's a very well built gun, but I haven't shot mine much.

Accuracy is the same as any .22

I think 75 yds is a stretch for a .22. I might use one on small game at 100yds - on a windless day, if I had a good bench rest - maybe. I wouldn't trust it to kill anything past that.

Sighted in at 50yds, you'll have between 4" and 7" bullet drop at 100 yds and you've already lost half your muzzle energy - and there wasn't much to begin with. At 150yds, 15-20" drop.

I own a bunch of .22's but I'm not a big fan when we start talking about range. If distance matters, my opinion is that something else will do the job better.



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agreed. Thank you for the advice. Much appreciated.


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Originally Posted by Zim
Just my humble opinion, a 22 lr should be a 50 yard or so gun
and hit a dime every time you ask it to within that range.

An AR 15 in 22lr would be fun for burning ammo but not much else.

Zim


Pretty much what I was thinkiig


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Originally Posted by The Possum Man
My opinion is just buy a normal 22 rifle like a ruger 10/22 or a savage or something. Something built from the beginning to be a 22. It will be more accurate and reliable in the end. If you want a rifle that looks like an AR then just buy an AR in a normal caliber.

agreed. been looking at some of the Savage. 10 round clips and about 150 cheaper.


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