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How Did We Get To This Point #6910764
06/25/20 08:53 PM
06/25/20 08:53 PM

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Today our country is essentially in a state of anarchy. We have terrorist groups controlling sectors of Seattle with no intervention. We have rioters destroying historic statues, businesses and attempting to take over the state capital in Madison, Wi while the mayor orders the police to stand back and even stay out of the area. Citizens have lost their civil liberties because mob rule is being allowed with no intervention from our elected officials and so as a result are being forced to protect themselves. The same political party that is trying diminish our second amendment right and protect ourselves is also trying to diminish the ability of police to protect and defend us.

How did we get to this point? What factors have facilitated this progression?

I believe the lack of enforcement of our immigration laws is one of these factors. The left has been resisting enforcement and blatantly ignoring federal law on this matter for the past 25-30 years while establishing sanctuary cites and releasing illegal immigrants. The left learned that there would be no consequences for the disregard and breaking of our country’s law.

Last edited by Trap_Hunt_Fish; 06/25/20 08:55 PM.
Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910768
06/25/20 08:55 PM
06/25/20 08:55 PM
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Northern Maine
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This country has been taking God out of the picture.


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Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910770
06/25/20 08:56 PM
06/25/20 08:56 PM
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Can you say Barack Hussein Obama?


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: Bruce T] #6910778
06/25/20 08:59 PM
06/25/20 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce T
This country has been taking God out of the picture.


Agreed. This is probably the biggest factor but I knew I could let someone else point that out.

Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910799
06/25/20 09:11 PM
06/25/20 09:11 PM
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As a person who is not religious I don't buy the lack of religion theory. The biggest single factor IMO is good people just standing by and watching it happen instead of getting out and taking an active role in stopping it. The politicians only hear those that scream the loudest so if you stand back silently watching your community burn, expect to get burned.

Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910809
06/25/20 09:16 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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Ed P hit the nail dead on the head.
Nobody cares.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910815
06/25/20 09:19 PM
06/25/20 09:19 PM
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Or

They care but believe in the system that has sorted out much worse things in the past.

It’s fun to fantasize about annihilating the “enemy”, but actually doing so in a country that guarantees one’s freedom to disagree regarding which way to turn the wrench defeats the purpose of the original experiment.

Last edited by HobbieTrapper; 06/25/20 09:26 PM.

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Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910818
06/25/20 09:20 PM
06/25/20 09:20 PM
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Take a look at the Roman Empire. Same difference.

Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910823
06/25/20 09:21 PM
06/25/20 09:21 PM
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Or.. politicians have been bought off and have a particular agenda to accomplish.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910824
06/25/20 09:23 PM
06/25/20 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Trap_Hunt_Fish
Today our country is essentially in a state of anarchy. We have terrorist groups controlling sectors of Seattle with no intervention. We have rioters destroying historic statues, businesses and attempting to take over the state capital in Madison, Wi while the mayor orders the police to stand back and even stay out of the area. Citizens have lost their civil liberties because mob rule is being allowed with no intervention from our elected officials and so as a result are being forced to protect themselves. The same political party that is trying diminish our second amendment right and protect ourselves is also trying to diminish the ability of police to protect and defend us.

How did we get to this point? What factors have facilitated this progression?

I believe the lack of enforcement of our immigration laws is one of these factors. The left has been resisting enforcement and blatantly ignoring federal law on this matter for the past 25-30 years while establishing sanctuary cites and releasing illegal immigrants. The left learned that there would be no consequences for the disregard and breaking of our country’s law.


It slowly started in the 50's and 60's. Read Cloward and Piven.


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Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910826
06/25/20 09:24 PM
06/25/20 09:24 PM

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The demise has been centuries in the making as we follow the progression of human rationalism. The morality of America, as it was in Europe prior, is now an individual decision. To each his or her own. Literally.

There is revolt against corporate authority now similar to what existed in the 1500's, then against 900 previous years of Medieval monarchies and corruption.

History does repeat itself, because man's heart's and minds haven't changed much in the grand scheme of things.

BLM didn't invent anarchy. It's been around for quite some time.

Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910827
06/25/20 09:24 PM
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PC’d to death for so many years we don’t know how to start again. LOL


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: EdP] #6910829
06/25/20 09:25 PM
06/25/20 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by EdP
As a person who is not religious I don't buy the lack of religion theory. The biggest single factor IMO is good people just standing by and watching it happen instead of getting out and taking an active role in stopping it. The politicians only hear those that scream the loudest so if you stand back silently watching your community burn, expect to get burned.

You don't have to be religious to believe in God..... God and the family unit have been decimated for one.


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Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910839
06/25/20 09:28 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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The downhill slide started when young men stopped wearing suits in the late 50's.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: Law Dog] #6910841
06/25/20 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
PC’d to death for so many years we don’t know how to start again. LOL


This is the reason. Some ideas and people are bad and need dealt with harshly.

Keith

Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910864
06/25/20 09:42 PM
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no term limits on politicians.and un elected people in the deep state running everything


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Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910891
06/25/20 09:55 PM
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Call me a hard (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) but I think it has been entirely too long since the people reminded the elected who they are working for. Maybe if a few politicians got tarred and feathered or hung in the courthouse square the rest of them would straighten up!


“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
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Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910920
06/25/20 10:09 PM
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We have gotten to this point because democratic politicians have chosen to ignore sensible decisions and use current events to a political advantage.

Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910926
06/25/20 10:11 PM
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Because no one what to be the bad guy. We do not make the Gov. accountable for there actions. An politician that does not follow the Constitution should be removed from office. JMO


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Re: How Did We Get To This Point [Re: ] #6910930
06/25/20 10:12 PM
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Problem isn't so much the politicians as it is lobbyists. We need to get rid of them. No one should be able to sway votes by paying money. Most countries don't allow lobbyists in politics, but we do.

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