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CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. #6912600
06/27/20 01:22 PM
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Just read on another site (Survivalist Boards) that the group has left due to an internal power struggle. Impossible! Can't find anything current about it but hope it is true. (and they left their garbage behind) gasp

Last edited by Gary Benson; 06/27/20 01:24 PM.

Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Gary Benson] #6912637
06/27/20 02:09 PM
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According to CNN and some of CHAZ/CHOP's leaders, people are leaving because of all the violence. They said there has been at least 4 shootings, with 1 death. There has been a huge number of assaults and numerous sex crimes. It sounds like they needed the police.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/us/seattle-autonomous-zone-protesters-leaving/index.html

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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Gary Benson] #6912639
06/27/20 02:15 PM
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I'll be darned. Who saw that coming?............


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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Gary Benson] #6912700
06/27/20 03:28 PM
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You mean to tell me that a society with no police, armed leaders who's only accomplishment in life is being a "gangster rapper" and hoards of unemployed basement-dwelling smelly hippies as citizens couldn't sustain itself? I'm a little disappointed I don't get to go over there on the 4th of July to help break it up.


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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Gary Benson] #6912702
06/27/20 03:29 PM
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utopia.


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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Gary Benson] #6912703
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It must have been fun though while it lasted.
No country for old men though.

Last edited by Boco; 06/27/20 03:30 PM.

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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Boco] #6912704
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Originally Posted by Boco
It must have been fun though while it lasted.
No country for old men though.


The fun was going to come on the 4th of July.


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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Gary Benson] #6912709
06/27/20 03:32 PM
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Failed social experiment.


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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Gary Benson] #6912715
06/27/20 03:34 PM
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They failed to take it back, they are clueless when it comes to leadership.


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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Gary Benson] #6912719
06/27/20 03:37 PM
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Jerry, you're right it looks like the latest says several hundred of them refuse to leave...


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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #6913409
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Failed social experiment.


If it was a social experiment it did not fail, but produced very predictable results. The hypothisis of those who set up the "experiment" was that their subculture could coexist peacefully without any structured law enforcement presence. It probably didn't help that they populated this utopian subculture with people who had total disregarded law and order prior to their little social experiment.

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couldnt get anyone to hoe the garden


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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: jeff karsten] #6913417
06/28/20 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jeff karsten
couldnt get anyone to hoe the garden

Not from a lack of ho's standing around either.


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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: walleye101] #6913438
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Failed social experiment.


If it was a social experiment it did not fail, but produced very predictable results. The hypothisis of those who set up the "experiment" was that their subculture could coexist peacefully without any structured law enforcement presence. It probably didn't help that they populated this utopian subculture with people who had total disregarded law and order prior to their little social experiment.


On the coexist peacefully part...Wasn't there a murder, sexual assaults, infighting, and food supply problems?


Looks more like it proved they couldn't make it without structured law enforcement.


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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter


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On the coexist peacefully part...Wasn't there a murder, sexual assaults, infighting, and food supply problems?


Looks more like it proved they couldn't make it without structured law enforcement.


Correct, but a failed experiment produces no results. This one produced convincing results that structured law enforcement is needed for a civil society. The results were pretty predictable, but broke down even faster than I would have expected.

Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Gary Benson] #6913484
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Yes, I see your point.


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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Gary Benson] #6913503
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Who remembers Soul City. I think it was in the late 60s. Federal money down the drain.

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I remember Soul Train. tired

Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Gary Benson] #6913655
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Would a bad experience lead someone to change what they consider before voting?


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Re: CHAZ/CHOP has collapsed maybe. [Re: Gary Benson] #6913673
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City officials are paying them off. This is not a social experiment. The city is complicit at best and promoting socialism.
Minneapolis and Seattle are in the same boat. The population/City Council/Mayor are made up of socialists, communists and Leftists.

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