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Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law #6914806
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In a 5-4 decision, with Roberts joining the majority, The Court has struck down Louisiana's requirement that abortion doctors have admitting privileges to a hospital.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/reaganmccarthy/2020/06/29/scotus-10-am-n2571510

I haven't read the decision yet, but am wondering if anyone has.

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Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: James] #6914815
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I saw that Clarence Thomas said in his decent that the Court's abortion precedents are pulled out of thin air with no constitutional basis and need to be reversed.

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Roberts is turning into a liberal

Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: James] #6914820
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Mystery Babylon, this country will burn....And the judges and lawyers who hold the scales, will be lit up like like blow torches.


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Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: marathonman] #6914821
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Originally Posted by marathonman
Roberts is turning into a liberal

Agreed. He has been a major disappointment, starting with Obamacare.

Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: James] #6914823
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Unless I've overlooked something, the only real purpose of the law was to make abortions more burdensome to women.

Jim


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It should be burdensome! not like driving up a drive/thru

Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: James] #6914828
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The supreme court reaffirmed abortion protections.


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Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: corky] #6914830
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Originally Posted by corky
Agreed. He has been a major disappointment, starting with Obamacare.


if you listened to his questions during the arguments about obamacare, you would have sworn he would have voted it to be un-Constitutional.

but something happened during the deliberation phase, and he came up with his contorted "logic" about the mandate being a tax [even though it didn't originate in the House of Representatives]...

I believe the Deep State got to him: "say, you wouldn't want those pics/allegations of your college "experimentation" to get out, would you?"


"We didn't come all the way out here just to 'feel them on the line.' "
Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #6914833
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Mystery Babylon, this country will burn....And the judges and lawyers who hold the scales, will be lit up like like blow torches.

X2


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Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: white marlin] #6914838
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by corky
Agreed. He has been a major disappointment, starting with Obamacare.


if you listened to his questions during the arguments about obamacare, you would have sworn he would have voted it to be un-Constitutional.

but something happened during the deliberation phase, and he came up with his contorted "logic" about the mandate being a tax [even though it didn't originate in the House of Representatives]...

I believe the Deep State got to him: "say, you wouldn't want those pics/allegations of your college "experimentation" to get out, would you?"


Like most conspiracy theories, this one is presented without any good evidence to support it.

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Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #6914842
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Mystery Babylon, this country will burn....And the judges and lawyers who hold the scales, will be lit up like like blow torches.


Hope it happens on this side so I can still ask forgiveness for enjoying it.


"Forgiveness".......because there is no Time Machine.

-Goofy-
Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: marathonman] #6914847
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Originally Posted by marathonman
Roberts is turning into a liberal


Bought and paid for.

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You can make a women wear a mask and that’s just fine, but if the subject of abortion comes up then you can’t tell her what to do because it’s her BODY


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Originally Posted by marathonman
Roberts is turning into a liberal


He has to keep his swamp status.


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Originally Posted by James
Unless I've overlooked something, the only real purpose of the law was to make abortions more burdensome to women.

Jim

Giving birth and raising a child is what's burdensome...which is why abortion is so popular with Democrats.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by James
Unless I've overlooked something, the only real purpose of the law was to make abortions more burdensome to women.

Jim

Giving birth and raising a child is what's burdensome...which is why abortion is so popular with Democrats.



Bingo


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Some people worry a statue might hurt someone's feelings, but don't care if babies are killed by the millions.

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Condoms should be banned too,just think how many millions of babies were done in with condoms.

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you actually mean yo tell me that americans are allowed to breed


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Originally Posted by Boco
Condoms should be banned too,just think how many millions of babies were done in with condoms.

Dumbest thing I have seen posted on this site.
I hope it was sarcastic......


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Originally Posted by Ditchdiver
Originally Posted by Boco
Condoms should be banned too,just think how many millions of babies were done in with condoms.

Dumbest thing I have seen posted on this site.
I hope it was sarcastic......


Nah, that's just one of the trolls.

Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: James] #6914919
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"That troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco


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Offended?

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Not at all. I consider the source.

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Roberts is a wolf in sheeps clothing

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Originally Posted by cat daddy
Roberts is a wolf in sheeps clothing

Close, he's a sheep in wolfs clothing. The mental midget follows the left every chance he gets. He turns my stomach.


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I have noticed the people who scream loudest to ban abortion are the parents least likely to get their teenagers any birth control. Abstinence abstinence is the cry. I cant decide whats worse. Convincing yourself your kids are special and they will wait till marriage, or quietly going on "vacation" for a week so the neighbors wont find out your kids are human too.


Its not the chronically unemployed getting abortions. They just keep having kids. Its teen age girls in suburbia and rural america all done quietly.

It would be nice if abortion would just go away but too many of those girls in church youth groups would be mothers


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Originally Posted by Boco
Condoms should be banned too,just think how many millions of babies were done in with condoms.

Nope, no conception. Didn't your Daddy explain that to ya?


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Originally Posted by woodtick
you actually mean yo tell me that americans are allowed to breed

You're depending on us..........we buy 84% of your exports. wink


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Originally Posted by Pawnee
You can make a women wear a mask and that’s just fine, but if the subject of abortion comes up then you can’t tell her what to do because it’s her BODY

WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Boco
Condoms should be banned too,just think how many millions of babies were done in with condoms.


Your Catholicism is showing.


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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by James
Unless I've overlooked something, the only real purpose of the law was to make abortions more burdensome to women.

Jim

Giving birth and raising a child is what's burdensome...which is why abortion is so popular with Democrats.


During the latest discussion I happened to be involved with i was told that abortion is the practical solution. Pragmatism. Where the cheapest, easiest, most practical solution is the best one.

However when I pointed out that simply shooting illegal border crossers was also the most practical solution all of a sudden I was a horrible person.

I guess you can only be pragmatic about human life when the human in question doesn't have a face yet.

Mike


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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by white marlin
if you listened to his questions during the arguments about obamacare, you would have sworn he would have voted it to be un-Constitutional.

but something happened during the deliberation phase, and he came up with his contorted "logic" about the mandate being a tax [even though it didn't originate in the House of Representatives]...

I believe the Deep State got to him: "say, you wouldn't want those pics/allegations of your college "experimentation" to get out, would you?"


Like most conspiracy theories, this one is presented without any good evidence to support it.

Jim


I'm not asking anyone else to believe it...but it is what I believe.


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Originally Posted by James
In a 5-4 decision, with Roberts joining the majority, The Court has struck down Louisiana's requirement that abortion doctors have admitting privileges to a hospital.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/reaganmccarthy/2020/06/29/scotus-10-am-n2571510

I haven't read the decision yet, but am wondering if anyone has.

Jim



Does not matter James what the decision says. Killing unborn human babies is wrong. Don't have to be either educated or a lawyer to know that. - Chancey

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Originally Posted by hippie
Some people worry a statue might hurt someone's feelings, but don't care if babies are killed by the millions.



It is mind boggling isn't it?


"Our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, erase our values, and indoctrinate our children."
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Originally Posted by hippie
Some people worry a statue might hurt someone's feelings, but don't care if babies are killed by the millions.



It is mind boggling isn't it?


Not really, just consider the source. wink

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You make a fair point!


"Our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, erase our values, and indoctrinate our children."
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
You make a fair point!

You got yourself a nice signature lol.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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How bout the Gubmint give 18 yr old ho's $10000 cash in exchange for getting their tubes tied? Think of the money that would save taxpayers. (and the burdensome thing as well)


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
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How about reversible sterilization be a requirement to receive any type of public assistance?
It could be reversed when that person "got back on their feet".


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You get your nuts cut off then if you want babies in the future a Canuck will pleasure your woman and strengthen your gene pool all at the same time.

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I'm not sure you are able to comprehend somethings. Maybe you frost bit your gray matter too many times.


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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town


I guess you can only be pragmatic about human life when the human in question doesn't have a face yet.

Mike


Exactly. And you can only be compassionate about it when it can vote or riot. You'll notice that BLM doesn't take issue with the 40% of abortions that are black, only the 32% of police shootings.

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Originally Posted by Chancey
Originally Posted by James
In a 5-4 decision, with Roberts joining the majority, The Court has struck down Louisiana's requirement that abortion doctors have admitting privileges to a hospital.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/reaganmccarthy/2020/06/29/scotus-10-am-n2571510

I haven't read the decision yet, but am wondering if anyone has.

Jim



Does not matter James what the decision says. Killing unborn human babies is wrong. Don't have to be either educated or a lawyer to know that. - Chancey


It does matter what the decision says, if you are interested in watching the courts and trying to predict which abortion laws could be upheld and which overturned.

There's always an alternative to just looking at the problem and wringing your hands. If the subject concerns you, if you are genuinely interested, then I expect you are already donating to the cause of unwanted children and perhaps even adopted one or two yourself. If so, I salute you for walking the talk.

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Unwanted children are born everyday and the taxpayer is forced to adopt them.

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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town


I guess you can only be pragmatic about human life when the human in question doesn't have a face yet.

Mike


Exactly. And you can only be compassionate about it when it can vote or riot. You'll notice that BLM doesn't take issue with the 40% of abortions that are black, only the 32% of police shootings.


They are killing babies with fully developed faces capable of breathing and living outside the mother, in some democrat controlled states. Democrats have proposed being legally able to kill babies soon after birth. They are evil.

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Originally Posted by James
It does matter what the decision says, if you are interested in watching the courts and trying to predict which abortion laws could be upheld and which overturned.

There's always an alternative to just looking at the problem and wringing your hands. If the subject concerns you, if you are genuinely interested, then I expect you are already donating to the cause of unwanted children and perhaps even adopted one or two yourself. If so, I salute you for walking the talk.

Jim


James, there is around 2,000,000 US families, actively enrolled to adopt available babies. That's 36 families for every baby available for adoption in the US. 3,477,000 US women, with fertility problems, are interested in adopting babies. Most want to adopt more babies, after the first.

https://www.americanadoptions.com/pregnant/waiting_adoptive_families

Over 81,000,000 Americans have considered adopting. Families know the chances of being able to adopt a baby is exceedingly slim.

There is a huge shortage of babies to adopt.

Keith

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You cannot legislate morality. The only time change can and will come, is when the hearts and minds of the people are changed.
Once that happens, you don't need the laws anymore- they become moot points.

If abortions are declared illegal today, they will still go on in private, undisclosed locations. The only way to effect change, is for people to see and accept the intrinsic value of human life. The change has to come from within, it is never effective when it only comes from the outside.

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Originally Posted by RKG
You cannot legislate morality. The only time change can and will come, is when the hearts and minds of the people are changed.
Once that happens, you don't need the laws anymore- they become moot points.

If abortions are declared illegal today, they will still go on in private, undisclosed locations. The only way to effect change, is for people to see and accept the intrinsic value of human life. The change has to come from within, it is never effective when it only comes from the outside.


Seriously, you want to trot out that old saw?

Well let me shoot that down with some equally ancient responses.

What about murder, theft, rape? Shall we just do away with laws against these things because "you cannot legislate morality"?

All law is based on morality whether one personally likes morality or not. The basic premise of the law "malum in se", wrong in fact, is at its core moral.

Why don't you instead speak the truth and instead say, you can't legislate away my desire to be immoral?

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I would opine that infanticide is clearly malum in se.

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You get your nuts cut off then if you want babies in the future a Canuck will pleasure your woman and strengthen your gene pool all at the same time.


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If people would look into the founding of Planed Parenthood, it was founded by one of the most racist people to ever live. Her idea was to eliminate the black population by limiting their reproduction. Most abortions, as of 2017, were received by black women. Her plan seems to be working. But you don't see protesters burning down any Planed Parenthood facilities.

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Originally Posted by Boco
You get your nuts cut off then if you want babies in the future a Canuck will pleasure your woman and strengthen your gene pool all at the same time.


BOCO.

Are you running low on farm animals up there ? shocked

He's just getting tired of waiting for one to thaw out


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Roberts is a wolf in sheeps clothing


Roberts does what I wish the other 8 would do, which is interpret case law and not use personal opinion. Roberts voted to uphold almost identical language in a Texas law a few years ago in which he was the minority. He voted against it this week because he considered the previous Texas case to be settled law. Much like Obamacare, he voted against the ability for the government to mandate the purchase of health insurance via the commerce clause, but allowed it as a tax - which while it upheld the law makes the repeal much easier.

I don't always agree with his decisions or like the outcomes, but I find Roberts to be the most judicially principled member of the court.

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Originally Posted by Pressure9pa
Originally Posted by cat daddy
Roberts is a wolf in sheeps clothing


Roberts does what I wish the other 8 would do, which is interpret case law and not use personal opinion. Roberts voted to uphold almost identical language in a Texas law a few years ago in which he was the minority. He voted against it this week because he considered the previous Texas case to be settled law. Much like Obamacare, he voted against the ability for the government to mandate the purchase of health insurance via the commerce clause, but allowed it as a tax - which while it upheld the law makes the repeal much easier.

I don't always agree with his decisions or like the outcomes, but I find Roberts to be the most judicially principled member of the court.


Yep. He just voted to support school funding for religious schools.

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How about reversible sterilization be a requirement to receive any type of public assistance?
It could be reversed when that person "got back on their feet".


That should be mandatory and most of the world's poverty and starvation problems would be over in a few generations. Never breed culls. By taking money from hard working Americans and giving it to non working Americans and even giving them more money for having kids, we are breeding culls.

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Then how could the economy continue to grow?You need more and more people consuming goods for the economy(stock market) to continue to grow in perpetuity.
That is why western governments with inadequate reproductive rates import masses from 3'rd world countries.

Stupid system,isn't it.

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Originally Posted by Boco
Then how could the economy continue to grow?You need more and more people consuming goods for the economy(stock market) to continue to grow in perpetuity.
That is why western governments with inadequate reproductive rates import masses from 3'rd world countries.

Stupid system,isn't it.


You don't need more people of low quality. Better quality people would have more children if they could keep more of the money they earn. Really all you need is better quality new goods for people to purchase.

Keith

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Originally Posted by Boco
Then how could the economy continue to grow?You need more and more people consuming goods for the economy(stock market) to continue to grow in perpetuity.
That is why western governments with inadequate reproductive rates import masses from 3'rd world countries.

Stupid system,isn't it.


They also bring third world people because they are less intelligent and easy to control.

Keith

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"Good quality"people dont breed enough.Too many kids are a hindrance to their habit of hoarding wealth.
Thats why low quality people are desireable to the system-they breed a lot and consume a lot.

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The Chief Justice relies on an abortion precedent he dissented from.



June 29, 2020 7:19 pm ET




So much for all those crocodile fears about the end of abortion rights. The Supreme Court ruled 5-4 Monday that a state can’t even require abortion providers to have admitting privileges at a hospital. And the logic of the concurring opinion from Chief Justice John Roberts, who provided the fifth vote, suggests not even de minimis regulation of abortion will survive his Court’s scrutiny.

A woman’s right to abortion wasn’t at issue in June Medical Services v. Russo. No woman seeking an abortion was a plaintiff. The case was brought by abortion providers, who claimed that Louisiana’s requirement that they have admitting privileges at a hospital would be an undue burden on the ability of women to obtain an abortion.


Here’s the stunner: Four years ago a different Court majority overturned a similar Texas statute, with then Justice Anthony Kennedy joining the four liberals. Chief Justice Roberts dissented in that case. Yet on Monday the Chief joined the liberals, citing his duty to follow precedent.

“The legal doctrine of stare decisis requires us, absent special circumstances, to treat like cases alike,” writes the Chief. “The Louisiana law imposes a burden on access to abortion just as severe as that imposed by the Texas law, for the same reasons. Therefore Louisiana’s law cannot stand under our precedents.”

Except it isn’t that simple, as the four dissenters point out. When the Chief dissented in that Texas case, Whole Woman’s Health, the majority used a balancing test he rejected. The Chief writes in Russo that he still rejects that balancing test. But this time his explanation is that the Louisiana law is an undue burden on abortion under the Court’s Casey precedent.

In other words, the case he relies on as a precedent that he says can’t be broken was wrongly decided. But the Chief has come up with another legal justification for getting to the result the liberals want. Have precedent, will travel. Any one will do.

As the dissenters point out, the Chief also ignores the Court’s recent precedents on standing law, or the ability to show harm. The Court’s precedents require that a plaintiff have an injury due to the law or regulation at hand. The Court does not easily accept “third-party standing” claims suing on someone else’s behalf.

In this case, the abortion providers aren’t hurt because there is no constitutional right to perform an abortion and Louisiana requires admitting privileges for many other medical procedures (Lasik eye surgery, etc.) in case something goes wrong. As Justice Neil Gorsuch points out in his stinging dissent, at least one major hospital in Louisiana eased its admitting rules for abortion providers after the law passed. Yet the Chief blows past the Court’s “third-party” standard when abortion is the issue.

The implications for abortion law seem clear enough. No challenge to the Court’s abortion precedents will succeed with the nine current Justices. Democrats and the left will continue to blow smoke about the imminent demise of Roe v. Wade, as Joe Biden did Monday. But even incremental regulation that tinkers around the edges of abortion law may fail.

We said Roe v. Wade was safe during the confirmation fight over Justice Brett Kavanaugh, and many on the left and right sneered. Sorry, folks, were you watching the Chief? These columns going back decades have supported abortion rights, within boundaries, but it is a political question to be decided democratically. Roe has poisoned so much of American political life, and politicized the judiciary in the process, by removing abortion from legislative debate.

Russo continues a dismaying string of rulings by the Chief Justice—less due to their result than their reasoning. He seems to think he has to protect the Court from Democratic threats to undermine its legitimacy. But in the process he is resorting to logic that looks designed to achieve political results.

On ObamaCare, he defined the insurance mandate as a tax. On the Census, he said the government’s logic was “pretextual.” On immigration this month, he said an Obama order was illegal but he overturned President Trump’s repeal order on procedural grounds. Now he relies on an abortion precedent he dissented from by rewriting that precedent.

All of these look like a Justice searching for a legal port, any port, to justify his rulings in a political storm. This will further draw the Court into politics and do even more long-term harm to the judiciary.


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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Boco
Then how could the economy continue to grow?You need more and more people consuming goods for the economy(stock market) to continue to grow in perpetuity.
That is why western governments with inadequate reproductive rates import masses from 3'rd world countries.

Stupid system,isn't it.


They also bring third world people because they are less intelligent and easy to control.

Keith


Spoken like an avowed white supremacist, Keith.

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The white supremacists are the ones bringing them here.


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Originally Posted by Boco
Then how could the economy continue to grow?You need more and more people consuming goods for the economy(stock market) to continue to grow in perpetuity.
That is why western governments with inadequate reproductive rates import masses from 3'rd world countries.

Stupid system,isn't it.


Originally Posted by Jarhead620
Originally Posted by KeithC
They also bring third world people because they are less intelligent and easy to control.

Keith


Spoken like an avowed white supremacist, Keith.


That makes no sense because there is a heck of a lot of Caucasian also known as white, third world countries. You are the obvious racist for only believing non whites live in third world countries.

Keith

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Roberts is turning into a liberal


He always was.


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You guys actually thought a conservative judge means he would always support conservative policies? Funny!

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Dirt, those are the words of a conservative judge.

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Originally Posted by Dirt
"…Judges and Justices are servants of the law, not the other way around. Judges are like umpires. Umpires don’t make the rules, they apply them. " John Roberts


he forgot to add the obvious: 'according to their own inherent biases'...

and let us not fool ourselves...BOTH sides try to appoint "Justices" that will lean their way. only difference is: the Left is MUCH better at doing so!


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Originally Posted by James
You guys actually thought a conservative judge means he would always support conservative policies? Funny!

Jim



why do Liberal Justices NEVER support conservative principles?

if they were "straight up" even-handed, you would expect their decisions to be roughly 50/50.

Yes?

but, that is NEVER the case. (I CHALLENGE you to find even ONE example of a liberal Justice taking a conservative view of ANY issue!)

[this is one of 'those" posts that James will ignore...inconvenient, as it is]

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Not even going to go through this post, but John Roberts for treason!


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Originally Posted by Scout1
Not even going to go through this post, but John Roberts for treason!

I need to apologize to John Roberts, George W. Bush for treason for appointing Roberts!


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What was the makeup (conservative vs liberal) of the Supreme Court when Roe v Wade was passed? The vote was 7-2...

Hmmm. How many "conservatives" will be needed on the court to overturn it?

This is why I don't place my faith and trust in man to do the right thing.

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From the way Roberts talked before and while being confirmed to the way he switched his "principles", I do wonder what person or persons has the goods on him.

A judge doesn't flip like that after decades of being the opposite for no reason.

His votes, action and logic do not pass the smell test.


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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
How bout the Gubmint give 18 yr old ho's $10000 cash in exchange for getting their tubes tied? Think of the money that would save taxpayers. (and the burdensome thing as well)

I’ll get my balls cut off for 10k jet ski and new traps here I come.

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Mason I think you are basically making Gary's point for him (but that's none of my biz. *sips more tea*)


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Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: bowhunter27295] #6916572
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
From the way Roberts talked before and while being confirmed to the way he switched his "principles", I do wonder what person or persons has the goods on him.

A judge doesn't flip like that after decades of being the opposite for no reason.

His votes, action and logic do not pass the smell test.


My thoughts too. Or he has the very common TDS that's inflicted alot of people.

Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: James] #6916600
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They got something on him. You really think he had TDS when he made the tax not fine decision when Obama was President? I think many on here have TDS (Trump Defense Syndrome).

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Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: white marlin] #6916615
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by James
You guys actually thought a conservative judge means he would always support conservative policies? Funny!

Jim



why do Liberal Justices NEVER support conservative principles?

if they were "straight up" even-handed, you would expect their decisions to be roughly 50/50.

Yes?

but, that is NEVER the case. (I CHALLENGE you to find even ONE example of a liberal Justice taking a conservative view of ANY issue!)

[this is one of 'those" posts that James will ignore...inconvenient, as it is]


" I find nothing in the language or history of the Constitution to support the Court's judgment. The Court simply fashions and announces a new constitutional right for pregnant women and, with scarcely any reason or authority for its action, invests that right with sufficient substance to override most existing state abortion statutes. The upshot is that the people and the legislatures of the 50 States are constitutionally disentitled to weigh the relative importance of the continued existence and development of the fetus, on the one hand, against a spectrum of possible impacts on the woman, on the other hand. As an exercise of raw judicial power, the Court perhaps has authority to do what it does today; but, in my view, its judgment is an improvident and extravagant exercise of the power of judicial review that the Constitution extends to this Court.
— Doe, 410 U.S. at 221–22 (White, J., dissenting)."

For James.


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Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion law [Re: Dirt] #6916728
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Originally Posted by Dirt
They got something on him. You really think he had TDS when he made the tax not fine decision when Obama was President? I think many on here have TDS (Trump Defense Syndrome).


Yes I do, along with being a rhino.

There's not very many libs and rhinos that dont.

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