Trapping vechile
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06/29/20 10:37 PM
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I replace the cast iron exhaust manifold 4 yrs back with converter integrated on it, common problem them is cracking, has had crack since Jan but not bad an warms up good it goes away, but when start on cold start. More do, , every start a lil, it runs rough for 10 seconds or a lil more until exhaust manifold metsl where crack expand an start seal leak, the shop Say a month ago that shouldn't hurt nothing ? Not bad on valves ? Or do somethknv to variable speed timing ? Thinking of blow up to whole $1000 bucks get fix. Not wsnt to go back an put off, a anyone know when start cold start an run rough 10-15 seconds until leak seal self. If possibly bad ?
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Re: Trapping vechile
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06/29/20 10:50 PM
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Never heard of a cracked manifold on an old clunker hurting anything. Somebody trying to separate you from your money.
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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06/29/20 10:55 PM
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No, the shop said it wouldn't hurt anything. He thinks they're lying, lol.
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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The first time replace , much worse, I took shop, drove home. Drove old truck work, drove shop windows down, loud. ! Carbon monoxide go though vents st u , it was much worse crack, more concern if damage something on motor on cold start when run rough for 10 seconds until metsl expand an seal leak.
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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06/29/20 11:17 PM
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The first time replace , much worse, I took shop, drove home. Drove old truck work, drove shop windows down, loud. ! Carbon monoxide go though vents st u , it was much worse crack, more concern if damage something on motor on cold start when run rough for 10 seconds until metsl expand an seal leak. Sounds like your truck is junk. Time to scrap it and buy a bicycle !!! You are screwed, coonman !!!! BOHICA !!!
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: walleyed]
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The first time replace , much worse, I took shop, drove home. Drove old truck work, drove shop windows down, loud. ! Carbon monoxide go though vents st u , it was much worse crack, more concern if damage something on motor on cold start when run rough for 10 seconds until metsl expand an seal leak. Sounds like your truck is junk. Time to scrap it and buy a bicycle !!! You are screwed, coonman !!!! BOHICA !!! Is everyone nearly as sarcastic as u in that part country ? Or is that u normally like ?
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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06/30/20 06:15 AM
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Don't pay attention to Walleyed. He likes to rattle people. I think your truck is running ok. Just remember to check fluids and change the oil. I don't think you need to worry about the truck.
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Re: Trapping vechile
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06/30/20 08:01 AM
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A crack in the manifold will allow air into the exhaust, This fresh air in the exhaust can skew the readings of the oxygen sensors. Not a big deal for the sensor after the cat, but if it is the sensor in the manifold next to the head, this can affect the fuel:air ratio being supplied to the engine. That may be why it runs a bit rough when it is cold. I've "heard" of guys replacing their O2 sensor with a dumby one that effectively bypasses that reading.
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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Sounds like your truck is junk.
Time to scrap it and buy a bicycle !!!
You are screwed, coonman !!!!
BOHICA !!!
Is everyone nearly as sarcastic as u in that part country ? Or is that u normally like ? Trying to give you some sound advice, coonman. A bicycle would give you many years of useful transportation and fewer parts to diagnose when you have a mechanical issue. Scrap the Colorado and use the proceeds to buy a used, serviceable bike. You'd save in repair bills, get good exercise, and help save the planet !!! It's a WIN=WIN situation for everyone !!! You'd get dependable transportation, and we'd be spared a weekly diatribe on your vechile woes !!! Carry on, coonman. w
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: ratbrain]
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Coonman --go to AutoZone and buy the compound that seals small holes and cracks in manifolds. I have used it and it works. Cheap too! Thanks for advice , but in cast iron, cracked. Replace is all do. My ancient junk 87-S10, which never drive much, save emergency vechile. Should be junked, would not trust all, or shutoff if went somewhere, N bad rust throughout an frame, not to safe. Anyway that has aluminum manifold an was successfully welded years ago
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: k snow]
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A crack in the manifold will allow air into the exhaust, This fresh air in the exhaust can skew the readings of the oxygen sensors. Not a big deal for the sensor after the cat, but if it is the sensor in the manifold next to the head, this can affect the fuel:air ratio being supplied to the engine. That may be why it runs a bit rough when it is cold. There is a O2 sensor go right into exhaust manifold. Can't see if in converter, because shield, just concern when run erratic on cold start for 10 or more seconds because crack in manifold. Until metal hot expand an run normal that could damage valves. Or screw up timing, if goes out time. Ur motor is toast, the shop Say shouldn't do nothing motor, but exhaust in cab is not what want. I pretty sure at times, at idle an park few min or cold start , smell exhaust. , It been that way the same since first year, just wondering if thst rough idle at first until metal expand an stop leak an run right , if rough idle could screw up motor ? I believe my old truck did same thing crack manifold except worse. , Until welded.the cost an cast iron manifold ridiculous, at gm garage, it be over $1500, was bad gm design, evaporater drip water manifold weaken,
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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06/30/20 01:19 PM
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Didnt know you rode a bicycle walleyed. Or are you one of those democrat "do as I say,not as I do" types.
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Re: Trapping vechile
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06/30/20 01:56 PM
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I have a wrapped exhaust manifold On my F-150 It sounds pretty neat but It runs just fine. They want to $500.00 bucks to replace it. I think I'll leave It the way It Is.
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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06/30/20 02:11 PM
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Coonman --go to AutoZone and buy the compound that seals small holes and cracks in manifolds. I have used it and it works. Cheap too! Thanks for advice , but in cast iron, cracked. Replace is all do. My ancient junk 87-S10, which never drive much, save emergency vechile. Should be junked, would not trust all, or shutoff if went somewhere, N bad rust throughout an frame, not to safe. Anyway that has aluminum manifold an was successfully welded years ago Not true, great for Exhaust manifolds, first thing on the list....
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Re: Trapping vechile
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06/30/20 02:34 PM
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Not true, great for Exhaust manifolds, first thing on the list.... [/quote] This-- like ADC said and I said. The stuff I used from Auto Zone reminded me of valve lapping compound. Patched up a small hole in my manifold for a couple years before I replaced it.
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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06/30/20 03:17 PM
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Yep, you'll have to take heat shield off.
As for the check engine light, yes again because it's sucking air in thru the crack giving false readings.
For once, take some of the above advise and either.....
Patch it with the J B weld recommended
Take to good welder
Or forget about it!
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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Well I think about it over weekend an decide next week, what do , could ask shop if JB welded compound maybe work, I think not an blow again or worse an blow out big crack , I don't know, the conveter went bad like 15 mi the ago an check engine lite in since then, the crack happen in January, so until replaced. No check engine lite to see if anything else wrong, it sound normal or nearly normal after warm up good, but for 15-20 seconds, the rough idle on cold start. An noise. , Back pressure not right ? Scary, I shudder an think it go wreck engine sometime. It go away after 20 seconds an on road after few miles. Normal or almost. Maybe should consider blow about $1k on cast iron exhaust manifold with converter integrated on it, expensive an go hurt, 2nd replace manifold. U can get for around $400 in first auto parts, advance auto want $600 for cheaper one, I doubt the shop is go want to put one on i get, I believe they quoted. $700 , Chevy garage or dealer. Is way over $1500, they only get gm replacement parts, have save up bunch $$ just lately in last 2 months, but it gonna be expensive, anyone know on hi mileage vechiles if oil pump fails , when do they usally not work right ? Upon engine start ? I almost positive the rough idle at cold start for 20 seconds , is back pressure from crack manifold, I had motor in another pickup years ago that died,, oil pump fail, is oil pump failure a common reason hi mileage vechiles die ? When do they fail ? Cold start act up ? I have 218, k on engine. Uses maybe a quart an half oil in 3k miles. Between oil change
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Re: Trapping vechile
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Not something wanna try myself. I doubt any shops let u bring ur part in, was asking anyone knows about motors with lots miles an oil pump failure There's shops in Virginia where you bring your own parts and pay the mechanic to put it on. I do it all the time with our mechanic. My old f150 has a little diesel in it that doesnt belong in there and most shops won't touch it. The small, one man mechanic shops will usually work with you on parts.
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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Drive it off a dock into the river,or burn it back in the bush then report it stolen and collect the insurance.
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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I don't have full coverage on it. Not a 2010 with high miles. If ur financed. I believe law say u have to or get financed, dealer wont sell. At least when bought it new. I not into ins fraud an big trouble. They only pay u what worth. I believe u also got have gap ins. When get something cost a lot or new from vechile. It pay difference. Between ins pay off. An what u owe on finacing, there all sorts junk I rember try sell u when bought new, extended warranty. Auto armor or ins even on interior an paint? Undercoating, other rip off crap they add onto ur financing , when I bought new in 2010, I argue lot on price an only thing got was gap ins. Expensive enough. Then they screw u on trade in price. There were $1000 off in discounts am noone wants manual. Difference in price. I believe the sale price after incentives was $19,000, now check out new Colorado prices. That 4 by 4, depreciation is terrible an quick when have for short while. Like $1000s, u got pay freight ft factory even if already have lot which they did. I could look up. Like $6$-700 more, unless u got money buy new vechile. U get screw bad on finacing, the first new vechile I actually pay off, without trade in, like keep it, I am picky with it an what do it, an who give ride to, I heard someone give some girl ride an had dope. I thought was dirty. As he had nothing do it an cops impound it an confiscate an sold sheriff auction I hear. I guess they like it that own it in such a case az if financed. It go back finance company, here the law sold it at profit to county. An this guy didn't have thing do it an got charged, but anyhow this don't matter, as wondering bfore get manifold replaced. Az oil pump symptoms or failures, ? These shops where they install ur parts, almost got be like guy that works cars. U csn trust. I know none , just shops, midas muffler wanted. Around $1200, shop I thinking of, maybe $900
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Re: Trapping vechile
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Is it groundhog day I'm feeling like Bill Murray For sure
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Re: Trapping vechile
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Coonman Look at Madison craigslist. For another $1000 dollars you can have a 2500 Dodge ram 4x4 in good shape. I would stop throwing your money on a worthless vehicle, what's next to go wrong?
There's nothing wrong with the truck he has, so the manifold is cracked, big deal, it doesn't effect the way it gets down the road and isn't going to hurt anything else. He doesn't think the JB Weld will work because the same shop that he doesn't trust with their diagnosis told him so. An oil pump either works or it doesn't. Just drive the thing and IF it ACTUALLY breaks down then have it fixed. You're going to die young if you don't get some help with your anxiety dave. Your constant worry and feeling that everyone is out to get you is not normal and is very unhealthy. I consider you a buddy and only say this because I care about it. You recall when my wife took this picture of you? I treated you pretty good that day I'd say. I don't just go around doing that for just everyone.
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Re: Trapping vechile
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I pictured a tall, lanky skinny guy hunched over with dickies work uniform on...…. Ha. It's funny the mental images we create of people we've never met. I'm always wayyyy off, lol.
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Re: Trapping vechile
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The guy in the picture doesn't look anything like the coonman I see in my "Mind's Eye". The coonman I pictured is 6' 4" and 165 pounds, Bald as a cue-ball with bugged out eyes, and walks with a hitch in his get-a-long. Who is this imposter ? w
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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Well the exhaust manifold just went. After work start. Sound slightly different. Then went up lil hill an loud, next time start , well be shop, I just hope I can start an get shop , with not lot backpressure, because crack, it was not do good performance. Go up driveway. Can u damage engine with not right amount backpressure from crack manifold. Until warm up an slight seal metsl ftom heat by crack ? I concerned. On cold start. That go run resl rough until warm, it did good at 70 mph warm up but slow speed. An cold start to shop, I don't know
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: coonman220]
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That sucks you don’t have someone that would tow you...
Go ahead and call the shop and ask if it is ok to drive to the shop...
I hope you get it fixed up and running...
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Re: Trapping vechile
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coonman, if you go to the "Search" feature of trapperman at the top of the main forums and type in "trapping vechile" in the search you will find exactly 20 threads you have made with this same title over the past few years (and that's just with your erroneous spelling of vehicle). Who knows how many search results you might yield with alternative spellings. Perhaps if you dig through YOUR OWN archives you'll find the answer you're looking for.
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Re: Trapping vechile
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coonman, if you go to the "Search" feature of trapperman at the top of the main forums and type in "trapping vechile" in the search you will find exactly 20 threads you have made with this same title over the past few years (and that's just with your erroneous spelling of vehicle). Who knows how many search results you might yield with alternative spellings. Perhaps if you dig through YOUR OWN archives you'll find the answer you're looking for. Everyone needs a hobby.
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Re: Trapping vechile
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she'll have so much power now you'll have to use the e brake ta hold er back.
glad ya got it fixed Dave.
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Re: Trapping vechile
[Re: run]
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07/29/20 09:42 AM
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I think your truck vechile should run good now. Geeze Run, It's not a truck..........It's a vechile !!!! Everybody knows that !!!! w
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