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Grizz country sidearms #6915147
06/29/20 10:48 PM
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I have found some articles on reloading and different opinions on sidearms in grizzly country. Anybody have any good reads or articles to check out. Thanks Ed

Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915173
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On YouTube there are some good videos on this topic. Chukes outdoor adventures does a pretty good job going through the topic. Not sure on articles on this topic but watching videos it definitely goes to all sides.


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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915178
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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915183
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To me- use enough gun is applicable sooo many times LOL.

There are lots of options anymore. Everyone wants a little .380 they can carry wearing skinny jeans but they are making some well crafted big bore handguns that wont break the bank IMO anyway


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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915208
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I was planning on getting a gun for possible bear encounters but have no Western tags this year so I'll procrastinate on getting it. Probably going to go with a 10 mm Glock or a Ruger super red hawk in 454 casul, leaning heavy towards the Glock for ease of carry.

Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915239
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It's a topic that's been discussed at length before, but I'll summarize my opinion: Carrry the biggest firepower that you can effectively draw and shoot well. A big gun that can't hit anything doesn't do any good.


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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915287
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Ammo land collected data and here it is

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/02/de...e-37-incidents-by-caliber/#axzz6QqGjK88e


service size and caliber handguns 9, 40 , 45 seem relatively effective and big hand cannons are harder to shoot under stress , low capacity and harder to reload.

44 was used the most as it is likely carried the most for bear

shot placement is more important than what you carry.


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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915310
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I’ve heard it discussed a few times on the radio program Gun Talk. 10mm seems to be popular


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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915325
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Having no shortage of opinions, I'll provide one here smile The 10mm strikes me as a good option given it's decent firepower, magazine capacity, and relative ease of carry. Get too big a hogleg and you may decide it's in the way while breaking down your elk and set it aside, just when you need it most.

Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915328
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Originally Posted by Mr. Ed
I have found some articles on reloading and different opinions on sidearms in grizzly country. Anybody have any good reads or articles to check out. Thanks Ed


12 gauge shotgun with loaded with buckshot and slugs.

That's what I carried on the Alaska Peninsula for 5 summers.

I'd suggest the Remington 870 Wingmaster with a short barrel.

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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: walleyed] #6915333
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by Mr. Ed
I have found some articles on reloading and different opinions on sidearms in grizzly country. Anybody have any good reads or articles to check out. Thanks Ed


12 gauge shotgun with loaded with buckshot and slugs.

That's what I carried on the Alaska Peninsula for 5 summers.

I'd suggest the Remington 870 Wingmaster with a short barrel.

w


The old Wingmasters are a nice gun.Almost as nice as my old Winchester model 12. smile


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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: upstateNY] #6915338
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by walleyed


12 gauge shotgun with loaded with buckshot and slugs.

That's what I carried on the Alaska Peninsula for 5 summers.

I'd suggest the Remington 870 Wingmaster with a short barrel.

w


The old Wingmasters are a nice gun.Almost as nice as my old Winchester model 12. smile


Yeah upstart,

But what about the vaunted Ithaca Model 37 12 gauge ?

What say you about that ?

w

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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915340
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JMO, but I would second the shotgun if you know trouble is coming but having a long arm at the ready at all times can be troublesome unless you assign one person to be on watch at all times. As for sidearms let me throw in one cartridge not mentioned, the 45 super. Most 45acp pistols can be upgraded to handle the Super. Also like others have said a sidearm is no good if you can't deliver accurate rapid fire with it. Big hand cannons will take you out of the fight if the recoil can't be controlled.


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Originally Posted by walleyed

Yeah upstart,

But what about the vaunted Ithaca Model 37 12 gauge ?

What say you about that ?

w


I'd say that's the best pump gun JMB ever designed.


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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915349
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For western hunts, I either carry my Smith 329 in .44, or my Glock 20 in 10mm. I’m comfortable and extremely proficient with either. Different guns for different situations. Gotta find what’s right for you. I will say that both my Glock and Smith are modified to tritium night sights. Gotta be able to see what your shooting at in all conditions.


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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915353
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Walleyed: I have two of the Ithaca 37 12 gauges,, and also gave my son a model 37 20 ga. youth model(shorter stock) with both bird and slug barrels that he has now passed down to his son.


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No Grizzes here but when trout fishing in the Adirondacks in Black Bear territory,,I carry my Ruger GP100 357 magnum and my son carries his 45 auto.


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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915391
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Here in MT. I carry bear spray, a lot lighter than a handgun and a lot more effective when one is coming at you. Don't forget the mountain money, ie TP.

Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: Mr. Ed] #6915393
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I carry a Glock 40 10mm with Underwood ammo in a Kenai chest holster for my Alaska fishing trips. I shoot it very well and the Underwood ammo is stout. Fortunately the three close encounters I have had were not surprises and I was able to put some distance between myself and the bear(s).

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Re: Grizz country sidearms [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6915395
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Ammo land collected data and here it is

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/02/de...e-37-incidents-by-caliber/#axzz6QqGjK88e


service size and caliber handguns 9, 40 , 45 seem relatively effective and big hand cannons are harder to shoot under stress , low capacity and harder to reload.

44 was used the most as it is likely carried the most for bear

shot placement is more important than what you carry.


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