Re: Is America
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
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I truly don't think it matters who gets elected, we live in an ungrateful society. If the left wins, the right (Whitey) will rebel; if the right wins, blm/antifa will rebel. I just pray that one's rebellion is less bloody than the other. This nation was built on Jesus Christ, and I feel that there are more of us Christians out there that will make the correct choice. If not, I'm prepared to stand up for my beliefs/family, and I hope that others are as well. God Bless!
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Re: Is America
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I think it went past that point when the golfer in chief got a second term. Trump has played way more golf than Obama. Not that it matters, everyone is entitled to a little.leisure time. Well at least we can didnt have to pay for Trumps round of golf.
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Re: Is America
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Change is inevitable. No use railing against it.
America will survive. Have faith in the old republic.
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Re: Is America
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
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"The liberal and latitudinal viewpoints, teachings, and gleeful acceptance by the majority in our country, have taken deep root, decimating the Puritan heritage that landed on our shores centuries ago."
Good thing, too. Liberal thinking led to the foundation of our republic, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.
I doubt any of us would prefer living under Puritan rule.
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Re: Is America
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Burning witches sounds like fun though.LOL. Or the cucking stool.
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Re: Is America
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I guess we'd have to define "savable?" As what?
The liberal and latitudinal viewpoints, teachings, and gleeful acceptance by the majority in our country, have taken deep root, decimating the Puritan heritage that landed on our shores centuries ago. Mark, I really don't think those liberal viewpoints have been as gleefully accepted as the media would like us to believe. I still think there is a strong moral compass among the vast silent majority. The Media's infatuation with mobs of violent protesters does not provide any real perspective on how widespread this type of thinking is. I was thinking along the lines of theology walleye, rather than a political theme. Liberal describes a widening view of what was once more conservative or restrictive in this country. In our lifetime, morality has been reduced to an individual morality, stripped away from a church often at odds amongst itself. Some Americans, no doubt hold an orthodox (tradition, time honored doctrine) belief in the God of the Bible, but far more align with cultural desires (denigration of the covenant of marriage, sex outside marriage, abortion advocacy, adherent behaviors embraced as normal, etc.), or a sect of the traditional Christian faith, but there is hope. Today's young adults look around and proclaim there is no truth in this world, or this country, but some still seek it. There is great excitement among some that as these next decades tick by, those who honestly seek answers to the big questions of life, will dismiss all the political infighting as just more hot air blowing, from the eras of their parents and grandparents, and they will rekindle and seek the God of the Bible as Truth. God loves impossible odds. He works best when we least expect it most times. Blessings Mark
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Re: Is America
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"The liberal and latitudinal viewpoints, teachings, and gleeful acceptance by the majority in our country, have taken deep root, decimating the Puritan heritage that landed on our shores centuries ago."
Good thing, too. Liberal thinking led to the foundation of our republic, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.
I doubt any of us would prefer living under Puritan rule.
Jim The counselor is correct Your Honor. Enlightened thinkers did rise up and start this great nation of America. But you have to admit also James, that while yesteryear's colonials debated the doctrines of God with passion and flair, today's post-modern debate things which... probably don't amount to much of much... except maybe to them. The allegiance of church and state in the early Puritan colonies would have been a tad rigid for sure.
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Re: Is America
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Mark June...we are in a constant battle with those who continue to begrudge Jesus Christ. I feel as parents, we are to blame for not holding true to the faith in which we were raised.
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Re: Is America
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Mark June...we are in a constant battle with those who continue to begrudge Jesus Christ. I feel as parents, we are to blame for not holding true to the faith in which we were raised. Yukon, I don't think I can disagree with you brother. I know for certain, that a culture which promised blessings for those who embraced make love not war, sex, drugs, and rock and roll, and the devil made me do it, has been a horrendous, evil lie, and has emptied the souls of millions in our country. People say folks are getting meaner. I say, naw, they just buy into what culture says makes you happy, and when it doesn't pan out so well, they get pretty crabby! Me, I like a day on the trap line (although today was 108 heat index, wow), where I can say a few prayers, catch a few critters, and pay a few bills. All lives matter here bro! Truth be told, there has been an avalanche of cultural topics piled on top of traditional Christianity, and the response by good people, trying to do the right thing, for the wrong reasons (theology, seminaries, churches, the faithful), was to appease the culture rather than hold firm. It really picked up steam in the 1800's when modern marvels, and science burst forth in untold measure, proclaiming to hold the answers typically reserved to God, and aberrant Christian sects arose as new prophets were announced. As we elevate and worship the created , we denigrate the Creator. 'Bout as simple as that. We may be to blame in a sense as you mention, but all we can do is share the Good News. The Holy Spirit does the converting! Blessings Mark
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Re: Is America
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Mark June...we are in a constant battle with those who continue to begrudge Jesus Christ. I feel as parents, we are to blame for not holding true to the faith in which we were raised. Yukon, I don't think I can disagree with you brother. I know for certain, that a culture which promised blessings for those who embraced make love not war, sex, drugs, and rock and roll, and the devil made me do it, was a lie. Truth be told, there has been an avalanche of cultural topics piled on top of traditional Christianity, and the response by good people, trying to do the right thing, for the wrong reasons (theology, seminaries, churches, the faithful), was to appease the culture rather than hold firm. It really picked up steam in the 1800's when modern marvels, and science burst forth in untold measure, proclaiming to hold the answers typically reserved to God, and aberrant Christian sects arose as new prophets were announced. As we elevate and worship the created , we denigrate the Creator. 'Bout as simple as that. We may be to blame in a sense as you mention, but all we can do is share the Good News. The Holy Spirit does the converting! Blessings Mark AMEN
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Re: Is America
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The train is going off the cliff no matter what . Trump was able to slow it down for us , so enjoy it will you can . If he wins we'll get another four yrs to prepare for disaster. If he loses ......look out ! That's pretty much how I see it also.
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Re: Is America
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If people have it in their minds that the fate of the country rests on one man winning or losing one political office, then yes, America is too far gone, and has been for some time.
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Re: Is America
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The difference being that between the golfing time Trump worked for and not against America . I din't think that I had to explain that on here but there ya go. I think the issue is that during his campaign, Trump promised that he wouldn't have time to golf because hed be too busy working, which obviously didn't turn out to be true. I don't particularly care one way or the other, I think just think it's funny when people complain about Obama golfing when Trump has played almost twice as much. But like I said earlier, I don't fault either of them for having their leisure time. I'm more concerned about their various policies than how much they golf. Where you finding this info? CNN?
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Re: Is America
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Several sources give info, but I assumed it was common knowledge. The guy owns golf courses, after all, and it's no secret he likes to golf. golf1golf 2golf 3If you've got sources to show Obama played more golf than Trump, I'd love to see them, but again, I don't think it really matters who played more golf. Its pretty.
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Re: Is America
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savable? Are we past the point of no return? Are we talking geography or people? Exactly.
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