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Re: US Created Slavery [Re: KeithC] #6917013
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Originally Posted by KeithC
The word slave comes from Slav, because Slavic people were enslaved in very large numbers by the Muslims in the 800s, over 1200 years ago. The Slavs are white.

Keith


I wouldn't call Slavs white....whites are north western euro. Slavs....are Slavs....I work very closely with a sizable Russian (and satellite people) and none of them consider themselves white by American standards and are offended by it.

Re: US Created Slavery [Re: Trapper7] #6917023
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Are we no longer using the standard anthropology terms to group folks, taught since the 1780's?

Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid.

I guess classification will now be by color?
That's a bit complex on one hand and totally subjective on the other hand.

PR - white is not strictly a region of Europe heritage color, correct?





Re: US Created Slavery [Re: Trapper7] #6917035
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There is no such thing as a "white" man.Its all a matter of perception.
For example a swede wouldnt consider a greasy little dark italian as white,but an african would.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Originally Posted by Mark June
Are we no longer using the standard anthropology terms to group folks, taught since the 1780's?

Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid.

I guess classification will now be by color?
That's a bit complex on one hand and totally subjective on the other hand.

PR - white is not strictly a region of Europe heritage color, correct?





Haplogroups are probably the most accurate way to describe groups of people from different regions.
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Re: US Created Slavery [Re: Trapper7] #6917071
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I'm an R2D2 smile

Re: US Created Slavery [Re: Trapper7] #6917083
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"The United States Census Bureau uses the ethnonyms Hispanic or Latino to refer to a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race and states that Hispanics or Latinos can be of any race, any ancestry, any ethnicity."

I'm Hispanic. I like nachos and cerveza.


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Re: US Created Slavery [Re: ] #6917097
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Originally Posted by Mark June
I'm an R2D2 smile



I'm an American....#1 grin


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Re: US Created Slavery [Re: Trapper7] #6917105
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I'm so embarrassed to have Tim Kaine represent my home state in our federal government.

Slavery existed in ancient Greece, Rome, Egypt, Persia, among the Incas, Aztecs, Maya and numerous other ancient civilizations. In addition, slavery existed in England and the English colonies in north america before they became the United States. Slavery existed among African tribes encountered by explorers from European nations, making it very easy to purchase slaves from those tribes. Later, when the 13 original colonies won their independence from England 240 years ago, slavery still existed in the formerly English colonies. In other words it still existed in the English empire at that time. 28 years after our nation was born the importation of slaves was outlawed. A short 85 years after our nation was born slavery was abolished in the United States. Tens of thousands of whites died fighting for the union in the war that ended slavery. That was 155 years ago. Many whites in this country today have no ancestors that lived in america when slavery was legal, let alone having lived in the southern states where slavery was legal. So, there are a multitude of reasons that blaming whites living in America today for slavery is just a lie. It's time for the blacks in America to stand up and tell the Democrat party that they are tired of the same old pandering and lies, and stand up for themselves the same way the Irish, Chinese, Italians, and every other non-native population has done. I'll not be apologizing for being white or for working my butt off to be successful. I'll not be putting anyone else down due to their race either, but if you won't make something of yourself don't expect me to have any respect or sympathy for you.

Re: US Created Slavery [Re: Trapper7] #6917128
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I've said this for years...We cannot move forward, because NO ONE will let the past be history...EVERYONE is caught up in who's fault it is, and not HOW we can make change for the good. One side wants this, the other side wants that...we have to find common ground for the NOW, not what has happened 200 years ago, or 15 minutes ago! We should ALL be held accountable for our own actions and decisions, not those of who we have no immediate relation to. (Hopefully) Rant over.


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Re: US Created Slavery [Re: Boco] #6917139
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Originally Posted by Boco
There is no such thing as a "white" man.Its all a matter of perception.
For example a swede wouldnt consider a greasy little dark italian as white,but an african would.

Absolutely! I have this convo with my part polack part african american family. I'm 100% NW euro. To me "white" is a WASP or at least NW euro. dago's and slavs are black euro's.

Re: US Created Slavery [Re: Trapper7] #6917230
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We're made in His Image, and I'm not sure what color(s) that is because He tells us what He wants us to know.
Color isn't on that list.
Gender is however.
Male and female.
I'm the first one listed.
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In fact, the coyote I caught today, said, "Darn, here comes that trapper dude. Why-o-why did I try and sniff that Smokey Post?"

Re: US Created Slavery [Re: AKAjust] #6917298
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I don't recall anyone bad mouthing the blacks that captured and sold their black "brothers" to the traders. just

Or their black brothers killing blacks in Chicago EVERY day.


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Re: US Created Slavery [Re: Trapper7] #6917310
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It will all come out in the wash.


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Re: US Created Slavery [Re: Trapper7] #6917328
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It has been tough to argue logically (pitting your facts against someone else's facts) with people for years now.
I miss those old days where we could maybe teach/learn from each other every now and again, and even disagree without name calling.

Now, it seems to have gone beyond name calling. It's F bombing this, and F bombing that.
I told my kids when they were young, when they'd turn on garbage on TV, and I'd sternly restrict garbage TV consumption in our home, and tell them in no uncertain terms, "Turn it off," that garbage in - garbage out was a theory I could envision.

Some didn't turn off their TV's, by the looks of the news reports.

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Originally Posted by Mark June
It has been tough to argue logically (pitting your facts against someone else's facts) with people for years now.
I miss those old days where we could maybe teach/learn from each other every now and again, and even disagree without name calling.

Now, it seems to have gone beyond name calling. It's F bombing this, and F bombing that.
I told my kids when they were young, when they'd turn on garbage on TV, and I'd sternly restrict garbage TV consumption in our home, and tell them in no uncertain terms, "Turn it off," that garbage in - garbage out was a theory I could envision.

Some didn't turn off their TV's, by the looks of the news reports.

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Find a interesting and somewhat controversial topic and I'll be happy to have a discussion with no name calling.

Re: US Created Slavery [Re: Trapper7] #6917342
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Good luck on that one..

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Re: US Created Slavery [Re: Trapper7] #6917350
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Obviously, Kaine is inexcusably ignorant. But the fact the US didn't invent slavery doesn't reduce or excuse or mitigate our own country's inhumanity in allowing slavery for the first eighty or so years of the USA's existence.

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Re: US Created Slavery [Re: James] #6917352
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Originally Posted by James
Good luck on that one..

Jim


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Re: US Created Slavery [Re: James] #6917359
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Originally Posted by James
Obviously, Kaine is inexcusably ignorant. But the fact the US didn't invent slavery doesn't reduce or excuse or mitigate our own country's inhumanity in allowing slavery for the first eighty or so years of the USA's existence.

Jim


...we just bought a little time in order to invent tractors... you like tractors right?


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Originally Posted by James
Obviously, Kaine is inexcusably ignorant. But the fact the US didn't invent slavery doesn't reduce or excuse or mitigate our own country's inhumanity in allowing slavery for the first eighty or so years of the USA's existence.

Jim


Is it possible that some today would rather claim to stand against the sin of yesterday, rather than deal with their own sinful nature?

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