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Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Steelflight] #6917480
07/02/20 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Steelflight
https://amp.coloradoan.com/amp/5349078002

If thats not horrible I don't know what is.

Why is this horrible?
Dont you have to buy a hunting, fishing, trapping license b4 you go onto public land to do these things? You think other recreational users should access these areas for free? On your dime?

The main reason Colorodo is doing this is to capture the license sales so the state will get more Federal monies back thru Pittman-Roberson and Dingell-Johnson programs.

Georgia did this a few years back. To access our wildlife management areas you have to have a hunting license, fishing license, or what we call a lands pass.

Aint no free rides on the back of sportsmen.

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Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: maintenanceguy] #6917481
07/02/20 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
Didn't you already pay for this land through your taxes?

That's what I was thinking

These over reaching agencies are always looking for ways to steal from the tax payer.
It's never enough


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Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Steelflight] #6917482
07/02/20 01:36 AM
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How many of you guys would be ok with needing to pay to enter every single store, gas station, restaurant, etc before even entering. You know, this way it will prevent theft, dine and dash, browsing and taking up space without any intent to buy anything.

Anyone stop at a gas station to use the washroom and that’s it? Let’s pay for that too. We all believe in fairness and equality right?...right?


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Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Steelflight] #6917486
07/02/20 02:41 AM
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Then let us hunt for free too then.Either everybody gets a free pass or nobody gets a free pass.


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Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: AntiGov] #6917530
07/02/20 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
Didn't you already pay for this land through your taxes?

That's what I was thinking

These over reaching agencies are always looking for ways to steal from the tax payer.
It's never enough


Be careful what you wish for.

My state (CT) has been charging $20 on every vehicle registration for ' state park fees ' even if you never access them. If you have another vehicle $20 for each additional vehicle. Own a car , plus a truck and maybe another beater car , $60. This is on top of 'clean air fees' that are added to the cost of owning a vehicle. I rarely access state parks here because there are few , crowded and on the smaller side.

Plus , like most great ideas the politicians come up with under the guise of improving things , it is pushed through with the story that those funds will go into a lockbox to be only used for that purpose. Then a few years later , it is reallocated to the general fund and squandered at will for some unknown pet pork project. Our state lottery was pushed through for education funding. " For the children "..... now that money goes directly into the general fund.


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Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Jurassic Park] #6917536
07/02/20 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
How many of you guys would be ok with needing to pay to enter every single store, gas station, restaurant, etc before even entering. You know, this way it will prevent theft, dine and dash, browsing and taking up space without any intent to buy anything.

Anyone stop at a gas station to use the washroom and that’s it? Let’s pay for that too. We all believe in fairness and equality right?...right?



No one pays for the things in your examples. If some have to pay then everyone should have to pay. Why should some not using public land it for it's intended use get a free ride while others have to pay for the privilege of using it as intended?


Eh...wot?

Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Jurassic Park] #6917537
07/02/20 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
How many of you guys would be ok with needing to pay to enter every single store, gas station, restaurant, etc before even entering. You know, this way it will prevent theft, dine and dash, browsing and taking up space without any intent to buy anything.

Anyone stop at a gas station to use the washroom and that’s it? Let’s pay for that too. We all believe in fairness and equality right?...right?



like have a membership card or frequent shopper type card that I scan at the door to get in

and I can have lower prices and stop paying for constant theft

sounds good

I don't shop , I buy , only reason I am leaving your store without buying what I came for is you didn't have it , wasn't the right size or the price was ridiculous.

have I ever stopped at a gas station to just use the restroom , I did once but it was a kwick trip and I spend thousands there a year , have the store card so that one time I just needed the bathroom no problem.


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Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Steelflight] #6917713
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So then you guys agree with the carbon tax?


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Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Lugnut] #6917752
07/02/20 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Our Pennsylvania Game Commission has been trying to do the same thing for the last five or six years; to get non-hunters/trappers to pay a fee to access our 1.5 million acres of State Game Lands. So far as I know they have not yet been able to get that rule through the state legislature. They did limit access for horseback riders and bikers. They are not permitted on SGL's (except on Sundays or on roads open to public travel) from the last Saturday in September thru the third Saturday in January, and before 1 p.m. from the second Saturday in April thru the last Saturday in May.


Pa. has a good system imo.

State game lands are bought with hunting/trapping license sales money for the purpose of wildlife conservation as first priority and other recreational uses as secondary. That's the reason bikers, hikers and horseback riders are excluded during open hunting seasons.

It also wouldn't bother me if they had to chip into the kitty for maintenance and acquisition of more land.

Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Steelflight] #6917776
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Agreed hippie.


Eh...wot?

Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Trap Setter] #6917789
07/02/20 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Trap Setter
I think the rub comes as these free users begin to feel like it's their park since they will now be paying for the land management and so will begin to demand changes in the consumptive use rules. If they have no skin in the game they can't be bothered to petition for changes. Once its "theirs" they may change their minds and become more vocal.


I think you are spot on, all we can do is see how it plays out


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Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Steelflight] #6917938
07/02/20 02:10 PM
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Its about time that the non hunters pay their share to.

Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Steelflight] #6917977
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Rule does not apply to federal lands or state parks. Already need a parks pass for state parks. Rule applies to state wildlife areas and state recreation areas. For my local area biggest impact would be at a couple reservoirs with lots of day use and is stupid covid rules relax camping. My guess, most people won't purchase and will play dumb if asked for a license.

Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Steelflight] #6918010
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I think it is great decisions politically and the way things work is all based on the almighty dollar plan and simple. When the bunny huggers want to close hunting the state is going to look harder at the dollars they will loose.

Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: Boco] #6918069
07/02/20 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
It looks like if you already have a hunting licence your good.it seems to be aimed at making the hikers,birdwatchers and other tree hugger types buy a hunting licence also.
I would back that up here.Seems like everyone besides hunters and fishermen get a free ride and benefit from wildlife management paid for by hunters,trappers and fishermen(consumptive users)
I say its about time the others chipped in too.

Ditto.


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Re: My condolences Colorado. [Re: MySide 🦝] #6918072
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Either make using the parks free for everyone or make them cost money to use for everybody. Glad to see Colorado made it fair.

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