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Re: Just a little history [Re: Nittany Lion] #6919401
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Originally Posted by Nittany Lion


Both the Union Army and the Confederacy's Army had over 5,000 missing after the Battle of Gettysburg, were they deserters?


Some were deserters. A lot of them got mixed in with other units when they were chasing Lee back to Richmond. My great grandfather was in the 62nd PA at Gettysburg. When he was discharged he was with the 105th.


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Re: Just a little history [Re: hippie] #6919499
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I would really like to see the battlefield there some day. I have always been interested in the war between the states. Tactics have changed a lot with the invention of more advanced weaponry. What man here can say for sure he would run across a field towards certain death with canister being fired at him? Does anybody here have info as to whether the 5th NC infantry (CSA) was involved there? I have read lots of conflicting information regarding this.

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I'm reading they were, under Capt.West with 473 men.

More reading says on the first day they attacked on Oak Ridge losing 64 killed, 125 wounded and 100 missing. Pretty decimated the first day.

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Re: Just a little history [Re: hippie] #6919508
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Thanks, Hippie, I have read in some places that unit was involved in the charge, but I'm not sure. Had two direct relatives in it, one kia in the battle of cedar creek, Va.before Gettysburg, other made it back home

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I edited with more info above for you. No problem!

Re: Just a little history [Re: hippie] #6919521
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Thanks, may I ask where you do most of your research, I run into a lot of paywalls when I am trying to trace the relatives

Re: Just a little history [Re: hippie] #6919524
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Re: Just a little history [Re: hippie] #6919526
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I got that info from civil war in the East website.

I can't link with this kindle or id link it for ya.

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Re: Just a little history [Re: ] #6919527
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Originally Posted by JOCO1995
I would really like to see the battlefield there some day. I have always been interested in the war between the states. Tactics have changed a lot with the invention of more advanced weaponry. What man here can say for sure he would run across a field towards certain death with canister being fired at him? Does anybody here have info as to whether the 5th NC infantry (CSA) was involved there? I have read lots of conflicting information regarding this.


The monument dedicated to North Carolina at Gettysburg is very nice.

Re: Just a little history [Re: hippie] #6919538
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Never been to that battlefield. Only reason I would want to go that far east.

I have been to several battle fields in Ky. and Tn. I can't help but get a real odd feeling at everyone of them. The bravery those soldiers had is simply incredible to me. What they all endured is more than anyone should ever be asked to endure.

I lived just outside Ft. Donnelson in Dover Tn. for 7 years. It is a National cemetery with burials still on going. As "Taps" was played at a burial it always sent chills up and down my spine. The sound coming through the timber toward my house had a mythical way about it. I have a few of my kin buried there. Some from the civil war, some from WW1 and WW2, one from the Korean conflict. My last uncle to be buried there was an engineer that built several of the dams on the Cumberland and Tn rivers.

My parents house in Dover was just across a street from the outer embankments of the fort. With the help of a friend that lived there all his life we found many war items while metal detecting. Broken swords, many many buttons, mini balls, part of a rifle, a pistol, and even cannon shells that didn't go off. Cut down three trees to get the cannon shells out of them.

Didn't find out till later those shells could have still went off. LOL

Re: Just a little history [Re: hippie] #6919580
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North Carolina Monument. It's pretty much the first one you come to as you start down Confederate avenue. A lot of picture angles are horrible for this one because the modern town is in the background.

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This would be where Pickett's charge would've pretty much ended. Pickett's charge was such an ill-conceived plan. It required them to run across an open field for about a mile in the blazing sun towards a heavily armed army hiding behind walls of stone. But then again the way this, and many other battles were fought is just odd. Wait until 2 or 3 in the afternoon and then attack.


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Re: Just a little history [Re: hippie] #6919597
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Union Army 2,500,000 to 2,750,000 soldiers.....Confederate Army 750,000 to 1,250,000 soldiers.

Union battle deaths, 110,070
Confederate battle deaths, 94,000

The Union force was twice as big, and lost 16,000 more soldiers in battle, and took 4 years to win the war.


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My grandparents ration books from WW2.

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I'm not sure what the upper stamps are for, but the loose ones are for fuel.

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Re: Just a little history [Re: hippie] #6919837
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I am very proud of my ancestry. They date back to Lord De La War from the word Delaware came from. One was the first Governor of Virginia.
I have documented proof that one ancestor fought with the Continental Army
I am a direct descendent of the Johns Hopkins family and my DNA reveals that my genetic markers are very close to those of Colonial artist, Benjamin West.
During the Civil War my great Grand Father served with the Ohio Volunteers. His brother served with Pennsylvania and was twice wounded. His brother in law was killed at the battle of Cold Harbor.My great grandfather moved his family from Philadelphia to northwest Ohio in 1858, by canal boat landing at a place known locally as Damascus. He was one of 9 men that founded the farm town of Liberty Center. Later in life he had the "Nebraska Fever", but lacked the funds to go.
On my mother's side she was a family member of the Brittons, a colonial family in New York and her ancestry dates back to the Dutch in New Amsterdam.
My cousin was a navy medic at Guadalcanal.
My wife's cousin was killed in Iraq.
Numerous family members served in Viet Nam
I am very proud of my heritage.

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