Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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As I read the pros and cons of governments trying to keep everyone safe and healthy I wonder why people choose to: 1) decide it’s asking too much of everyone to wear a mask so that the vulnerable amongst us can be saved too? 2) to maliciously put their convenience ahead of the rest of us by going out in public while they’re sick, because they’re tired of staying home. 3) put themselves first without a care for anyone else.
James, is that you?
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Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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danny clifton
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oneoldboot are you seeing more patients than you did a few years ago with SARS? Are more people dying now with chinese flu?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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oneoldboot are you seeing more patients than you did a few years ago with SARS? Are more people dying now with chinese flu? Yes. I do not have personal experience with Chinese flu, but the statistics I reviewed from the CDC reports 100K dead in the USA over ~ 2 years, so I would have to say "yes" to your second question as well.
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Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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How many come in for covid vs come in for something else and test positive for covid? Most, not all, but most present with respiratory distress that tests positive for symptomatic C19. This is far from over.
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Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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i dont understand I do not have personal experience with Chinese flu, but the statistics I reviewed from the CDC reports 100K dead in the USA over ~ 2 years
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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I don't know how this movie is going to end, but I don't think even the higher risk people will hole up forever. At least a lot of them won't.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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I don't know how this movie is going to end, but I don't think even the higher risk people will hole up forever. At least a lot of them won't. I think you're right. Can't just hide forever.
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Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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I would venture that most of the discontent stems from a lack of consensus from government medical officials. There are too many variable decrees to a Covid-family member pathogen, which itself seems to pick and chose who it effects and where.
My question remains when did virological pathogens genesis to the point of not crossing state lines or only effecting certain activities? Talk about a "smart bug?"
No consensus of the governing or the bug and we wonder why the turmoil?
Oh, and then there's the "it's an election year" backdrop for kicks and giggles.
Bottom line, we don't have consistent medical or governmental answers on C-19. If we did, all would be different.
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Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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As a Healthcare provider I cannot find the words to describe the disappointment when I read some of these posts. We have more hospitalized C19 patients today than two months ago. We work long hours taking care of patients that are very sick and some die and we put ourselves and families at risk.
I sometimes wonder how many of them were exercising their freedom before they were hospitalized.
Wearing a mask and social distancing is a selfless act. Based on some of the posts I've read some of you are unfamiliar with that term. It's a shame.
As a healthcare provider what are some of the risks/complications that result from wearing a mask for extended periods of time?
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Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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One hundred thirty thousand people in the US are dead because of this virus. And some of you guys don't give a rats behind? Because it is inconvenient to you? The ICUs are nearing capacity. YOU may be one of the carriers. So go ahead and claim your rights are being violated. just
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Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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As a Healthcare provider I cannot find the words to describe the disappointment when I read some of these posts. We have more hospitalized C19 patients today than two months ago. We work long hours taking care of patients that are very sick and some die and we put ourselves and families at risk.
I sometimes wonder how many of them were exercising their freedom before they were hospitalized.
Wearing a mask and social distancing is a selfless act. Based on some of the posts I've read some of you are unfamiliar with that term. It's a shame.
As a healthcare provider what are some of the risks/complications that result from wearing a mask for extended periods of time? You could be mistaken for a female muslim.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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You could be mistaken for a female muslim.
Well blow me over and call me sally
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Re: Just a Mask? Time To Say NO!
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Besides, this vaccine deal is pushed by Bill Gates, who is a One Worlder, & he said himself (you can watch this on YouTube,) "I'm going to reduce the world's population from 7 billion to 500 million; we will do this by means of vaccines!" If he's going to reduce the population THAT much, why is he 'try to save the world' with his vaccine. Beside this is a flu virus, it changes, so you'll have to get new shots every year; it IS NOT deadly; it is not even very contagious; you have a 98% chance of recovery; those who have died of it already had one foot in the grave from other diseases! Why are they padding the numbers? Doctors have said they are being paid up to $40,000 for EACH patient that dies, if they put COVID on the death certificate! They have even said that if they test positive for COVID at the time of death, they go down as COVID death, even if they had died from a gunshot wound! Even with the inflated numbers, IT HAS STILL NOT KILLED AS MANY AS THE FLU!
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