Re: george floyd knee on neck
[Re: Gary Benson]
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With the fanfare made at his funeral they made it impossible to say they were wrong. Fentanyl or no Fentanyl. Which funeral? There were several. Golden casket, American flag and all. He was a great man. Nothing improves character as much as death.
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
[Re: trap master]
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07/09/20 09:37 AM
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A knee to the back of the neck and shoulder area is pretty much standard while cuffing a non compliant subject, or was standard. Done responsibly, it works very well to keep someone somewhat stationary while cuffing. Where the problem came in was the narcotics in his system that combined with adrenaline and physical exertion that started overloading his heart. If the officer had cuffed him and then got him up and put in a patrol unit, he likely would have still died or at least had a heart attack but it would have been from the officers knee. The officer was wrong in what and how here did things. Had he got the suspect up and placed in a unit, he would have been able to see the suspect was in distress. Bad deal all the way around. I’m willing to bet had the suspect not played stupid games, he wouldn’t have stupid prizes. Yet, here we are. This whole thing has been played by politicians and spun so many times that it’s not even about BLM any more, it’s about a socialist take over of America.
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
[Re: trap master]
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07/09/20 09:41 AM
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There will be more death. The media will be jumping on to make President Trump look bad. Our last President did nothing to stop the killing EVERY week in Chicago. But we do not hear about that unless some Police Office did not follow the SOP.
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
[Re: trap master]
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07/09/20 09:41 AM
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The one link in about every case was the person was unable/unwilling to follow simple directions that lead to problems.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
[Re: traprjohn]
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07/09/20 11:46 AM
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If their police instruction manual dictates that procedure in the way it was performed, - He broke protocol. It’s middle of the back there.. Add on th 18 other documented instances of excessive force and I think he’s done. ..... like a fat lady on a barbed wire fence. I agree. The other documented cases are what will convict him.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
[Re: trap master]
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07/09/20 01:08 PM
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The trouble-maker always becomes the victim and then everybody involved is in trouble. Same thing every time.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
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07/09/20 03:18 PM
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For what reason did the kneeling on the neck become necessary after he was cuffed behind is back with 4 officers there?? Just plain stupid, wrong and plain excessive force and brutality. For the record I'm all for blue lives matter and a peace officers and civil obedience. The reaction most of what is going on vandalism, riots now is wrong, but I do believe the right to assemble and voice your opinion is based in the constitution. What happened in Georgia and other incidents is wrong and is causing an extreme reaction. The current administration in counties, states and Washington level need to wake up. Yes, because an angry mob was bearing in. This didn't happen inside a bubble, it happened surrounded by people. You're now in a new situation, that's different than making this same arrest in an empty park. You have to worry about bystanders attacking you, attacking Floyd, Floyd running and them interfering or getting injured. A cops job isn't as simple as, "he was in cuffs you should let go" people die all the time because of cuffed perps.
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
[Re: Steeltrap]
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07/09/20 07:27 PM
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Bottom line was he was murdered. It dosn't happen as often as the turds at BLM would have you believe though.
The cops brought this on themselves... Way too many times ti see them doing whatever they want, things that would get the rest of us arrested, but they get fired... And move a department or county over and continue. Look at how much some of them have cost taxpayers..
The problem isn't the training... It's the vetting of who they employ. Bottom line is he killed himself by fighting the officers. The perp brought this on himself. Got a dandy funeral(s) though.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
[Re: trap master]
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07/09/20 07:48 PM
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Are you gonna tear down statues, set fires, or steal Nikes?
Look, I get your point. If a man dies in police custody or being taken into custody I think we should always demand an investigation. That being said, I have not yet heard of a man being respectful and non-combative loosing his life during the arrest have you?
I can clearly remember some false narratives being put forth by the media like "hands up don't shoot" which was clearly the farthest thing from the truth.
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
[Re: trap master]
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07/09/20 08:07 PM
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On the upside The guy has not used any drugs for a month now
Let's go Brandon
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
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On the upside The guy has not used any drugs for a month now Quit drugs, and I'd bet won't be going to prison again.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
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07/09/20 11:31 PM
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If their police instruction manual dictates that procedure in the way it was performed, - He broke protocol. It’s middle of the back there.. Add on th 18 other documented instances of excessive force and I think he’s done. ..... like a fat lady on a barbed wire fence. The person that did the post said it was SOP "putting the knee on the neck of a non compliant suspect like the officer did is taught and is actually in the Minneapolis police hand book. anybody else see the article?" And that is what I was going by... we weren't discussing the other 18 infraction if in fact there were 18 others. I spent over 15 years in County, State and 2 different Federal agencies as an LEO and every jurisdiction has their own SOP. Garry-
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
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07/09/20 11:34 PM
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So its ok for an officer to kill someone who fights them. Good to know. Not alright, but will most likely happen...you're welcome.
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Re: george floyd knee on neck
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07/09/20 11:48 PM
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If their police instruction manual dictates that procedure in the way it was performed, - He broke protocol. It’s middle of the back there.. Add on th 18 other documented instances of excessive force and I think he’s done. ..... like a fat lady on a barbed wire fence. There is 18 complaints, not documented instances of excessive force. Complaints can be utterly untruthful and against police, most are indeed found to be false when reviewed. They are not even close to the same thing. I can say that you assaulted James, excessively on 18 different occasions and document it and you still don't have a single documented use of force on your record. Keith
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