Re: IS IT LEGAL?
[Re: rex123]
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danny clifton
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sometimes you need to stand up and be counted
i have been on the "list" for a very long time
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Re: IS IT LEGAL?
[Re: rex123]
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07/09/20 09:24 PM
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J Staton
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I wonder what the infection rate among women is in Saudi Arabia or other traditional muslim countries?
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Re: IS IT LEGAL?
[Re: James]
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I don't understand why anyone would object to wearing a mask.
Defying a governor's order just to prove you can is petty, seems to me.
Near-universal compliance with government and business-required masks has helped keep infection rates low in Japan.
Jim You have been there right? Kind of like New York City. However, I have no problem wearing a mask when I cannot maintain social distancing. Is that what the mandates are? There is no gain wearing mask when you are not near people. IMO The best you can do is recommend people wear masks when they can not maintain social distancing and need to open their mouths. Speaking of Japanese; they were always my favorite customers. They always did what they were told. Except for Wata-san; he apparently was problem child even back in Japan.
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Re: IS IT LEGAL?
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Well,they will punish you for not wearing a mask,,but if you want to destroy private property,,or smash out windows and steal things ,,that seems to be OKY DOKEY.
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Re: IS IT LEGAL?
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Masks on people who don't follow medical protocol does nothing to prevent the spread, nor protect one from getting infected. If your mask is not fitted to your face, it serves no purpose for anyone. If you touch your mask after you touch an infected door handle, or a keyboard on a gas pump, and don't throw your mask away and replace it with an uninfected one, it serves no purpose for anyone. If you wear gloves, but don't change them every time you touch something which someone else has touched, it serves no purpose for anyone. If you do follow all of the above measures to a T, how many people around you are practicing all of these measures? I will bet as close to zero percent as statistically possible.
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Re: IS IT LEGAL?
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So exactly what mask is able to stop a virus from being expelled in a cough? According to our governor, a cotton cloth will suffice. Standard thread count on a t shirt is 18 tpi. Some t shirts have as high as 30 tpi. So how effective is that?
Anybody ever seen that gap on both sides of a mask even when it is worn properly? How many people wear them properly?
A mask is worn to prevent the sick from contaminating the healthy, not protecting the healthy. When you walk into a Dr office there is a sign at the door that asks you to put on a mask if you have a fever, coughing, sneezing or flu like symptoms. Formerly I was never asked as a healthy person to wear a mask.
What changed?
I will wear a mask when needed to appease the masses, but I do not see it as an effective method of preventing disease transmission. The viruses are tiny, but they don't move on their own, when propelled out. They are stuck in globules of human saliva or mucous. The masks just have to catch the globules the virus is trapped in. Put pepper in water, with a little syrup in it, to thicken it like saliva or mucous and try to spit it through a colander. Very little if any pepper will make it through and the distance it will cover, if it does make it through, is greatly shortened, compared to just spitting it. Keith
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Re: IS IT LEGAL?
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i think the danger is greatly exaggerated. homeless and incarcerated. no big die off What about babies? They gots poor immune capabilities........and no word of them dieing off. We might have more herd immunity than we realize.
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Re: IS IT LEGAL?
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i think the danger is greatly exaggerated. homeless and incarcerated. no big die off What about babies? They gots poor immune capabilities........and no word of them dieing off. We might have more herd immunity than we realize. What kills people is their bodies own overreaction to the virus, causing them to basically drown in their own fluids. As you pointed out, babies have poor immune systems, thus their body does not overreact to the virus, thus they don't drown in their own fluids, thus they don't die. Keith
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Re: IS IT LEGAL?
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"It certainly looks that way when you look at his views on abortion and especially because the murdered babies have their own bodies too, that they did not choose to have torn apart."
You're losing it, Keith.
I have no idea whether a governor can Constitutionally order the wearing of masks. I never said he/she does or ought to have such power. I said people ought to wear masks without making a fuss.
The governor's order gives cover to businesses that want to require the wearing of masks for the protection of all of their customers. I suspect that may be the impetus for the order.
The wearing of masks is justified not only for the protection of self, but of those around you. Abortion does not spread like a pandemic of virus. If your daughter has an abortion, she will not infect possibly a hundred other people and cause them to have abortions too.
You are getting increasingly strident and angry. Maybe you should take a vacation from the nightly news.
Jim
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Re: IS IT LEGAL?
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We are now being asked to wear a mask from time to time. Not all the time, just when there is a chance it might help to stop the worst pandemic the world has scene in about 100 years. You don't need to wear it when home, in your car, in most cases outside. Just when it might help to keep your fellow American healthy. While the mask is no were near 100% effective, it is almost sure to help.At least if you believe anything doctors/scientists say. If you are unable to do this little simple thing, well, it might say more about you than you would like others to know.
I don't believe this is the worst pandemic we've seen in the last 100 years. 1968-1970 H3N2 FLU was way worse at this point. this is a real disease but I believe its more than that. I don't believe they are telling us full truths and some may want to just see how far they can go in making us sheep.
just my opinion Tom
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Re: IS IT LEGAL?
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Yes Tom there is a reason they give the death numbers in whole numbers, not percent of the U.S. population. As a percent, the number would be tiny. Nobody would get excited if they gave it in percent. It is common practice to do this to paint the picture.
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Re: IS IT LEGAL?
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Yes Tom there is a reason they give the death numbers in whole numbers, not percent of the U.S. population. As a percent, the number would be tiny. Nobody would get excited if they gave it in percent. It is common practice to do this to paint the picture. The death rate in the US per population is 0.04044% per death rate chart
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Re: IS IT LEGAL?
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Yes Tom there is a reason they give the death numbers in whole numbers, not percent of the U.S. population. As a percent, the number would be tiny. Nobody would get excited if they gave it in percent. It is common practice to do this to paint the picture. The death rate in the US per population is 0.04044% per death rate chartGoing to run out of people any day now. Bill Gates has a lot of work to do.
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