Re: Peeking in on James
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Don't have time to research or for deep thinking. I just drop in here for a breather now and then.
What is the legal part of the question?
Jim
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Re: Peeking in on James
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I don't know that you're right with such a negative view of humanity. I have a different view.
I see most people trying to do the right thing most of the time. I see people--with some exceptions--caring about other people and helping them out when they have a chance.
If I'm wrong, then show me your evidence. I'm not aware of evidence to support your dark view of humanity. Sure, some of us commit atrocities on others, but that's not most of us.
I now happen to be reading a book on sociopaths written by a psychologist. She contends sociopaths don't have the one thing the rest of humanity shares: a conscience.
Fortunately, only one in twenty-five people is a sociopath. Your view seems to encompass them, but not most of us.
Jim If 1 in 25 are sociopaths and if my math is correct, this means 13,200,000 people in the United States are sociopaths. That is a lot of nut cases running around to possibly do us harm. They're not nutcases, really, though the diagnosis is antisocial personality disorder. They don't have a conscience, and are incapable of love, affection, and other warm emotions. They do cause great harm, getting their kicks out of deceiving, manipulating, and cheating other people. Fortunately most don't become serial killers. I'm convinced I ran into plenty of sociopaths during my law career. Jim
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Re: Peeking in on James
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[quote=Grandpa Trapper][quote=James]
They don't have a conscience, and are incapable of love, affection, and other warm emotions. They do cause great harm, getting their kicks out of deceiving, manipulating, and cheating other people.
Jim Hahahahaaaa that's the definition of a LAWYER.. JIMMY...
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Re: Peeking in on James
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Do you mean my MFA program discussed in the other thread?
If so, I'm learning a lot in it. I'm halfway through.
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Re: Peeking in on James
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Mark, I've now got most of my residency response written. I've read your OP again, and thought about it more, I'll take another swing at your original two questions.
You asked, "What is your explanation for the natural propensity of humankind to so often, and so easily, act in what society classifies as a negative manner? Survival of the fittest evolutionary trait?"
That's not a legal question, and I don't see the connection to negativity bias (which I looked up). I don't have any expertise in sociology or socio-biology (or whatever they call it), but I'll tell you what I believe.
Except for sociopaths, who can do anything without remorse, most of us have a war going on inside us between our conscience and our selfish interests. Our conscience is what allows us to have an emotional connection to other human beings. Being without a conscience means you can't love or feel an emotional connection.
The evolution of a conscience is an interesting thing to consider; but I digress.
Back to the original question: A lot of bad human behavior is done by sociopaths. Studies show that twenty percent of prison inmates are sociopaths, while they make up four percent of the population.
But why do good people, normal people with a conscience, do bad stuff? Self-interest, which is an evolutionary survival trait, I suppose. Altruism prevails some of the time, but not always.
Jim
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Re: Peeking in on James
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[quote=Grandpa Trapper][quote=James]
They don't have a conscience, and are incapable of love, affection, and other warm emotions. They do cause great harm, getting their kicks out of deceiving, manipulating, and cheating other people.
Jim Hahahahaaaa that's the definition of a LAWYER.. JIMMY... upstate, you won the Internet today for this post!
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Re: Peeking in on James
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Trying to kill off a thread again, Marlin?
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Re: Peeking in on James
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Yes, I let you bait me into saying things I regretted.
Don't get too puffed-up about it. It won't happen again.
Jim
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Re: Peeking in on James
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Anyway, this ain't my thread you're trying to sink.
I've copied my above post and PM'd it to Mark. So do your worst.
Jim
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Re: Peeking in on James
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But why do good people, normal people with a conscience, do bad stuff? Self-interest, which is an evolutionary survival trait, I suppose. Altruism prevails some of the time, but not always.
Jim[/quote]
Greed or jealousy ?
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Re: Peeking in on James
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But why do good people, normal people with a conscience, do bad stuff? Self-interest, which is an evolutionary survival trait, I suppose. Altruism prevails some of the time, but not always.
Jim
Greed or jealousy ?[/quote] They listen to Satan.
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Re: Peeking in on James
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Why do a multitude of white folks join BLM, Yet no Black folks join KKK? Their "white guilt" has been pounded into them through the public/liberal education system.
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Re: Peeking in on James
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Re: Peeking in on James
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Impressionable, middle class white kids who had no parental involvement in their lives. They get shipped off to college and soak up all the Marxist learning that they are fed. They believe everything they hear from their professors and hear/see on the internet. And they have no personal responsibility. They have been spoon fed their entire lives.
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Re: Peeking in on James
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Something that ought to be considered: If you have looked at the horrible news on TV over the last several months you would assume that the entire world has about gone mad. Through a lot of reading both academic (sociology, and a few graduate level psychology classes exploring behavior at many levels, pastoral counseling etc.) and personal interest (Have read tons on psychology and human behavior)I have come to believe a simple analogy can be made. It is amazing how quickly and easily a large amount of the population can become sheep. Spend some time reading about mob mentality. It is scary stuff. The vast majority of people need leadership. If poor crazy (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)ed leaders are loud enough, they will quickly have an army of dolts capable of almost anything following them.
From my observations in the last 50 years or so, I suspect that there are far more folks that are sociopathic than some might suggest. Far more. Dealing with people in the construction field (workers, trades people, venders, customers, etc.), people involved in the world of education (everyone involved) and from working in municipal government, I believe there are a ton, of people that go undiagnosed of various issues. There are people on the streets as I write this that do not belong in society. Lots of reason the country and world has evolved like this, and no real idea how to fix it.
It is a crazy world my friends and it is not getting better.
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