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Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6927201
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Well mine are ride right to it spots 10,000 pastures pretty well hidden wink
But I been known to go by them 35 40 mph on my wheeler.
On my cat line it's so bushy,, you gets to go get wet. Lol

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Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: red mt] #6927232
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Originally Posted by red mt
For the newer trapper reading this thread,,, you can not catch what ain't there. I know it sounds obvious but True none the less.
Cover lots of ground. And pull and move after catch start's to slow down.
Because zero day add's nothing .
3 weeks to a month come back ,and set it up again to catch what moved in .


How long would you give a new set to connect before moving?

Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: TyT] #6927234
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Originally Posted by TyT
Originally Posted by red mt
For the newer trapper reading this thread,,, you can not catch what ain't there. I know it sounds obvious but True none the less.
Cover lots of ground. And pull and move after catch start's to slow down.
Because zero day add's nothing .
3 weeks to a month come back ,and set it up again to catch what moved in .


How long would you give a new set to connect before moving?

4-5 days around me. Depending on the location and prior history with it also

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Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: TyT] #6927257
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Originally Posted by TyT
Originally Posted by red mt
For the newer trapper reading this thread,,, you can not catch what ain't there. I know it sounds obvious but True none the less.
Cover lots of ground. And pull and move after catch start's to slow down.
Because zero day add's nothing .
3 weeks to a month come back ,and set it up again to catch what moved in .


How long would you give a new set to connect before moving?

TyT once I put set in I never move it until I pull traps to move and go to the next permission.
Here waiting on a coyote come back around can be while.
If were answer that question directly I would say 1 night to 15 days on average before I move most times.


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Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6927271
07/11/20 05:44 PM
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Ok guys say your trapping in an area where driving a stake is just a pain ( let's say though rocky areas out west pine plantations with baked red clay in the south and frozen ground and timber up north) and you don't want to mess with drags what would y'all do ?

Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6927273
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Ok guys say your trapping in an area where driving a stake is just a pain ( let's say though rocky areas out west pine plantations with baked red clay in the south and frozen ground and timber up north) and you don't want to mess with drags what would y'all do ?

Chain or cable traps to a tree would be about the only viable option. Or what I have done is tied off to tractor tires laying in grass fields and they dont drag them very far.


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Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: 2cylinder] #6927633
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Originally Posted by 2cylinder
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Ok guys say your trapping in an area where driving a stake is just a pain ( let's say though rocky areas out west pine plantations with baked red clay in the south and frozen ground and timber up north) and you don't want to mess with drags what would y'all do ?

Chain or cable traps to a tree would be about the only viable option. Or what I have done is tied off to tractor tires laying in grass fields and they dont drag them very far.

This....


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Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6927647
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Ok guys say your trapping in an area where driving a stake is just a pain ( let's say though rocky areas out west pine plantations with baked red clay in the south and frozen ground and timber up north) and you don't want to mess with drags what would y'all do ?


Well DEL Kramer in his book used wire chain or cable to tie off to a big rock , and used some sort of cement block. By making forms put chain cable in it a head of season once built took out where was going to make set leave until he was ready I got too many logs or big tree branches handy but could see my self using DEL's handy dandy home made rock in the mid west.
Hope that helps some


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Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6927900
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I have been tempted to make some artificial rocks out of concrete,with an "eye" bolt for a few spots and place them well ahead of season.I would be able to leave them out all year.I have drilled some limestone rocks already,for the same purpose.Actually,the rotary hammer takes the fight out of some of those crazy,rocky areas,for putting in rebar stakes.I always hated when I would hit a rock,halfway down and had to relocate the stake holes several times at one set.Some times you would about wear out your shoulder after a couple sets,but with the rotary hammer and a long,masonry bit,you can relocate a stake hole very quickly with little,physical effort.

My plan was to dig a few holes in a sand bar and use that as my rock molds.You could make them any size or shape that you wanted and install an eye bolt or loop while the concrete was wet.That is the theory anyway.

Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6928060
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Ok guys say your trapping in an area where driving a stake is just a pain ( let's say though rocky areas out west pine plantations with baked red clay in the south and frozen ground and timber up north) and you don't want to mess with drags what would y'all do ?

All I can do is set/pull after a rain. Sometimes I have to cut myself short on a piece of property and sometimes I’m there just a little longer. All my landowners know and understand what is involved in trapping. And just about all of them have rode the line with me while setting and or checking.

Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6928301
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Ok guys say your trapping in an area where driving a stake is just a pain ( let's say though rocky areas out west pine plantations with baked red clay in the south and frozen ground and timber up north) and you don't want to mess with drags what would y'all do ?

Snares or cable to a tree


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Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6928480
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I'd get on Snareone.com and buy Newt's Master Land Snaring book and 10 dozen of his snares.

Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6928609
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I think it was Thorpe that buried tie plates for yotes and cat sets in rocky environments. In timber here it rarely freezes much under leaf litter so I just stake as usual. Love late season timber close to frozen marshes..


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Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6929167
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I'd say don't knock the drags until you try them- I find lots of advantages and prefer to use drags in most places


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Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6929277
07/14/20 01:26 AM
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Hay so to help with some visuals, if I took some pictures of locations would y'all mind talking about how you guys would set it up?

Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6929319
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wolfdog try to find pinch points one of my best ones is in a corn field that runs along a river their is a island of trees in the middle of the field with a brush pile on the end by the river it is 40 yards from the pile to the river i set 3 traps i have caught k9 in that spot every year for the last 8 years if you have 2 fields separated by a hedge row if it has a bar way look to see if their is tire tracks in the bar way if so set traps in tracks

Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6929327
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Hay so to help with some visuals, if I took some pictures of locations would y'all mind talking about how you guys would set it up?

Show the pics please!


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Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6929514
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i can but have to wait till mid September when they cut the corn

Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Wolfdog91] #6929759
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Hay so to help with some visuals, if I took some pictures of locations would y'all mind talking about how you guys would set it up?


I'd sure look at your pictures but in almost any area, the concept of the multiple sets (I shoot for 3) will always hold up. As I was working a coyote heavy area that was also problematic because of a lot of trapping, I noticed
that a dirt hole, a post, and some sort of flat set (for me- its usually a cow bone) worked good another trapper on here described that scenario as his "triangle of death". Hard to forget that.


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Re: Coyotes coyotes coyotes [Re: Taximan] #6931616
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Originally Posted by Taximan
I have been tempted to make some artificial rocks out of concrete,with an "eye" bolt for a few spots and place them well ahead of season.I would be able to leave them out all year.I have drilled some limestone rocks already,for the same purpose.Actually,the rotary hammer takes the fight out of some of those crazy,rocky areas,for putting in rebar stakes.I always hated when I would hit a rock,halfway down and had to relocate the stake holes several times at one set.Some times you would about wear out your shoulder after a couple sets,but with the rotary hammer and a long,masonry bit,you can relocate a stake hole very quickly with little,physical effort.

My plan was to dig a few holes in a sand bar and use that as my rock molds.You could make them any size or shape that you wanted and install an eye bolt or loop while the concrete was wet.That is the theory anyway.

Just go down to your local home Improvement store you can buy all the pre made rocks you want. Just drill a hole In them and put In cement anchor and your good to go.


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