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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929791
07/14/20 04:37 PM
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And anyone with double digit IQ can also see the the skewing of the numbers is always in the direction to make it appear to be worse than it really is. And the media completely ignores the corrected numbers because their agenda is to fan the fear and make it look worse. They publish downright lies with no attempt to make sure what they post is accurate.

Any idiot should question a lab reporting 100% positive test results if they have tested more than one person.


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929795
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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: AKAjust] #6929796
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Originally Posted by AKAjust
Fact is more dead people than normal means something is out of proportion.
There is a sickness going around.
A thinking person would say "hey I guess this ain't political."
All the news services world wide are reporting covid sicknesses and deaths
More people than normal world wide are dying from some sickness. .
Hmmm

Think, think, think and stop the "Its political" BS.
just


we are over half way through the year with 500 000 - 600 000 deaths globally. Over the first year of H1N1 we had about 152 000 000 deaths, so let's say 80 000 000 at this point in the year. for comparison
And over 1 000 000 000 were infected with H1N1..

Globally covid is 150X less deadly than H1N1 by the numbers.

with H1N1, We never talked about shutdowns and pandemics, and the world went along fine, we forgot about it til covid popped it because it was such a nothing. So, my real question to you is, do you think we should be doing this for any disease that creates this amount of death? Because covid isn't unique in how many people it's killing.

At first we were facing an uncertain and novel virus.Now we have the numbers, protect those that need it and move forward. I have congenital heart defects, and will be needing surgery, i'm 37 and i'm even saying this!

****IMPORTANT TO NOTE****
The shutdown was based on NO science, by definition, this was a novel virus, we had zero info. The reaction, and the quarantine were NOT based on science initially and early. Correct????
ok... So, we set up based on no data. Now we have LOOOOOADS of data, and the solution MAGICALLY turns out to be EXACTLY what they had guessed for quarantine BEFORE the science???

That doesn't make any sense.... We thought it was dangerous, to a level 9. We reacted to a level 9. We now know it's not a 9. You want to keep reacting as a 9?

People aren't saying covid is a hoax they're saying the 9 is a hoax.

Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: QuietButDeadly] #6929798
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Originally Posted by QuietButDeadly
And anyone with double digit IQ can also see the the skewing of the numbers is always in the direction to make it appear to be worse than it really is. And the media completely ignores the corrected numbers because their agenda is to fan the fear and make it look worse. They publish downright lies with no attempt to make sure what they post is accurate.

Any idiot should question a lab reporting 100% positive test results if they have tested more than one person.

Agreed


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929802
07/14/20 04:47 PM
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I’ve got not dog in this Florida fight

But h1n1 did not kill 152 million people as stated.

Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929806
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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929818
07/14/20 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by AKAjust
Fact is more dead people than normal means something is out of proportion.
There is a sickness going around.
A thinking person would say "hey I guess this ain't political."
All the news services world wide are reporting covid sicknesses and deaths
More people than normal world wide are dying from some sickness. .
Hmmm

Think, think, think and stop the "Its political" BS.
just


No, the media hasn't been honest and neither have the governments. That's the frick'in point here! Just as many people, in fact more people have died from various strains of the flu. Yet they ignore that fact. They also didn't start the count over., They do that after flu season, after the peak. They have been fixing the books since day one. Any moron with an IQ in double digits can look that up. There is evidence everywhere. I guess most are too lazy to do any investigation on their own and just believe what they are told. I call them sheepel.


I found you some evidence.


[Linked Image]

Some people are just too lazy to look it up.


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929820
07/14/20 05:01 PM
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CaptGus, you’re correct on your numbers. It’s some pretty bad math saying H1N1 was150 times deadlier.

Good perspective on the politics of it. I’m amazed by the extreme partisanship in many topics, not just this one.

Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929832
07/14/20 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt


I found you some evidence.


[Linked Image]

Some people are just too lazy to look it up.


And some are to stupid to understand anything other than what the government tells them. I call them sheeple.

Last edited by Finster; 07/14/20 05:10 PM.

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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929833
07/14/20 05:11 PM
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A lot of things amaze me about this one Kory.

If the virus is airborne and anyone deemed to be in anyway vulnerable stays home, limits human contact to a bare minimum, and wears a mask (even in their own car driving alone) then why is it important that any (and every) one else wears a mask?

Do the masks not work? If so- they why would we need a mandate to wear one?

If the virus is easily spread to a surface, then off of the surface, and absorbed by the skin but someone vulnerable / compromised, etc- then why are there no mandates to wear gloves.


There are so many things that defy logic, I really don't think you can raise an eyebrow at anyone who questions the experts that are trying to convince us that these protocols will keep us safe.

By all means, I would love to hear your thoughts on the topics I just brought up, maybe my logic is missing some key bits of information you have but just haven't shared yet.


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929836
07/14/20 05:14 PM
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I’m not looking to get into the mask thing. We don’t have to wear them, some work places do, a few big businesses mandated them but to me, life appears almost as normal as it did a year ago where I live. My wife (dental) is wearing big time gear compared to prior to covid. As of now, there has been no reason for me to wear one therefore research back and forth on effectiveness. Yes, logic is defied in many ways these days, that it’s very true.
I’m only in this one regarding the bad math on H1N1.

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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929838
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Ok, I understand. Between you and me, I'd hate to be the man that has to explain that BS


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929839
07/14/20 05:18 PM
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Oh, and as far as bad math, let me say this: To look around- bad math appears to be at least part of the current virus scare...


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929845
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Math is a reason I really have no big stance on the masks. I read Texas has had 275000 cases, we’ve had 900 and in square miles we are basically equal, so clearly there is a much greater mask issue to see and live with where you are. That’s why I’ve put no thought into effectiveness of masks, I’m lucky to see one a week.
Agree, bad math helps nothing.

Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929846
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REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICAL POSITION, THIS NEEDS SOME ATTENTION.

I just put this together with data I downloaded from the CDC's website. It tracks the covid-19 cases PER DAY, rather than a cumulative number like the media has been giving.

Would y'all like to know why you shouldn't trust the media? All I've heard all weekend - even from Fox News is how positive cases are breaking records. People are speculating about school, sports, etc. and businesses are closing again. Twenty states have started rolling back their reopening plans based off the data the media is reporting.

The blue line on this graph is the number they're not telling you. It's the number of tests that are being performed each day.

The green line is the number of those tests that are actually positive.

The yellow line is the number of new hospitalizations per day (notice some are below zero-that's when more patients with covid check out than in).

The red line is the number of deaths per day.

Why is the media ONLY reporting the number of positive cases? Looking at this, can you see how they're intentionally misleading us?

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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929848
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So the reason they are inflating the numbers??


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Art S] #6929849
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Originally Posted by Art S
REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICAL POSITION, THIS NEEDS SOME ATTENTION.

I just put this together with data I downloaded from the CDC's website. It tracks the covid-19 cases PER DAY, rather than a cumulative number like the media has been giving.

Would y'all like to know why you shouldn't trust the media? All I've heard all weekend - even from Fox News is how positive cases are breaking records. People are speculating about school, sports, etc. and businesses are closing again. Twenty states have started rolling back their reopening plans based off the data the media is reporting.

The blue line on this graph is the number they're not telling you. It's the number of tests that are being performed each day.

The green line is the number of those tests that are actually positive.

The yellow line is the number of new hospitalizations per day (notice some are below zero-that's when more patients with covid check out than in).

The red line is the number of deaths per day.

Why is the media ONLY reporting the number of positive cases? Looking at this, can you see how they're intentionally misleading us?

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Last edited by Finster; 07/14/20 05:26 PM.

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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929852
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I am glad you and the young fishermen are doing well up there. We all enjoy the pictures of them from one of your outings.

But as far as numbers- Texas is listed with 29 Million citizens and Sask is listed at 1.174 Million. To me, it would be a tough comparison but I do see a trend when we remember how fast this stuff spread on Manhattan Island where people live like sardines in a can in at least some neighborhoods.

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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6929859
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Leftlane, density of population is huge and 100% a big factor. Math if based solely on population would have you with 30 times the cases, not almost 300 times. I won’t ssy we’ve done anything better, nor you worse, to slow the spread, I cannot say. What I know, is we’re more spread out by a long shot.

Thanks for the kind comments, we’ve been hammering them fish.

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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Art S] #6929884
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Originally Posted by Art S
REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICAL POSITION, THIS NEEDS SOME ATTENTION.

I just put this together with data I downloaded from the CDC's website. It tracks the covid-19 cases PER DAY, rather than a cumulative number like the media has been giving.

Would y'all like to know why you shouldn't trust the media? All I've heard all weekend - even from Fox News is how positive cases are breaking records. People are speculating about school, sports, etc. and businesses are closing again. Twenty states have started rolling back their reopening plans based off the data the media is reporting.

The blue line on this graph is the number they're not telling you. It's the number of tests that are being performed each day.

The green line is the number of those tests that are actually positive.

The yellow line is the number of new hospitalizations per day (notice some are below zero-that's when more patients with covid check out than in).

The red line is the number of deaths per day.

Why is the media ONLY reporting the number of positive cases? Looking at this, can you see how they're intentionally misleading us?

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